sub91 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Hello I am with virgin media hub 3 gamer package been using the netduma as well the thing is with virgin media the bufferbloat is really high and Intel are looking to fix the problem can anyone recommend a good router with QoS that I can plug in to the netduma can I was going to have it as Virgin media hub + QoS router + netduma thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zennon Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Hi sub putting a router in between the superhub and the duma will have no affect on the jitter from the ISP/modem cpu problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonicBoom Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 I don't think you can replace Virgin's hub either, it uses that screw-in connection thing. But it's not just Virgin's hub, it's their infrastructure (speaking from painful experience). Obviously not everyone is affected by it but if you are then it is horrible. My Virgin line was pretty good for years and then it became unplayable overnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sub91 Posted January 7, 2017 Author Share Posted January 7, 2017 Ok thanks guys Intel say there fixing the problem with a update but I know virgin media won't release a update worst ISP plus if I cancel contract they want 300 pounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted January 7, 2017 Administrators Share Posted January 7, 2017 Ok thanks guys Intel say there fixing the problem with a update but I know virgin media won't release a update worst ISP plus if I cancel contract they want 300 pounds £300 to cancel a contract? That's insane! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonicBoom Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Ok thanks guys Intel say there fixing the problem with a update but I know virgin media won't release a update worst ISP plus if I cancel contract they want 300 pounds I don't know when Intel are doing their update but you're probably right, even if Intel drop it next week Virgin probably won't be rolling it out for 6 months. How bad is it? Can you post up a graph from Ping Plotter (Google it, free software) for us to look at? You'll need to test over ethernet, straight from the super hub (in modem mode) is best. And if you've got a TBB (thinkbroadband) graph running that's quite useful too. If you kick up enough stink*, they will probably let you out of your contract, especially if it's not really playable on the 'gamer' package. It depends how bad it is though. It took me a couple of weeks and a few visits from engineers but they buckled eventually and let me out of contract without a charge. And as I wanted to keep the cable TV with Virgin, I hassled them into giving me a much better deal on that too. I've got nothing against them as a company (no more than any other large comms company anyway) and I would have preferred not to change ISP at all but their own engineers told me that there was nothing they could do so I was relentless until they released me from the contract. *Just remember it's not the fault of the poor sod at the end of the phone, if you can get them on your side then you've got a lot more chance of them helping you out. And don't mention the Netduma (custom setup) or they'll try to blame it. Softly softly catchee monkey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sub91 Posted January 7, 2017 Author Share Posted January 7, 2017 Ok well are do both test will ping plotter show the bufferbloat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonicBoom Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Ping Plotter will show how stable your ping is. But to really see how stable your line is you need to test straight from the modem (super hub in modem mode). Just a simple line test while nobody is on your network. You can use it to show how your connection is affected by buffer bloat though. Check out the picture in this thread... That's me testing how the Netduma controls buffer bloat caused while I'm maxing out my connection. http://forum.netduma.com/topic/19746-does-congestion-control-work/?do=findComment&comment=135808 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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