tellto Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 My bullets still are not registering and I still have to put in more than 10 bullets to kill someone. My PS4 is set to 80% device prioritization and I have my PS4 as a service. Also, my Geofilter is set to 30 ms ping assist and 1000 kilometers away for the range. I'm also receiving a moderate nat type after port forwarding and static ip. When I play, my ping is around 40. I also did a speed diagnostics test on the netduma control panel but I got OK for ping, GOOD for jitter, EXCEPTIONAL for ping spikes, and NO PACKET LOSS. I don't know why my ping is like this. Please help as soon as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonicBoom Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Welcome to the forum tellto! The recommended congestion setting is 70/70, you should try this and see if it improves things. For port-forwarding, follow Bagsta's Black Op3 PS4 tutorial here (assuming that's what you're playing) http://forum.netduma.com/topic/15763-port-forward-for-blops3-on-ps4/?hl=port+forwarding You should try pinging something else other than Google's DNS (which is what the 'Internet Diagnostics' tab pings), pings to Google have shown some unusual behaviour lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellto Posted June 14, 2016 Author Share Posted June 14, 2016 thanks so much colonic boom, i had it to 70/70, but i was still not getting the right hit detection. Thanks for the help though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM961 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 thanks so much colonic boom, i had it to 70/70, but i was still not getting the right hit detection. Thanks for the help though Hit detection is not good on this game still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonicBoom Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 thanks so much colonic boom, i had it to 70/70, but i was still not getting the right hit detection. Thanks for the help though You're welcome, I actually play on 60/60 congestion control sometimes. You may need to experiment sometimes. What are your normal internet speeds / bandwidth from your service provider? (not what you pay for but what you actually get). Make sure you follow that link I posted and you should be able to get an Open NAT. What country are you in? On PS4 there are lots more server banks than on Xbox, some of the PS4 servers probably play much better/worse than others - you could try putting your geo filter somewhere else and see if that improves (remember that changes to the geo filter can take a couple of minutes to take effect - so that we can't cheat). I'm on Xbox and for Western European gamers I think we only have the Microsoft Azure servers in Ireland (but they are good servers), I like playing on the US servers too but I've never actually checked which ones Urge is putting us onto. What was your ping when you did the Internet Diagnostics by the way? (as I said, that pings Google DNS 8.8.8.8 and people have been noticing weird results pinging it lately). When I want to test my ping I use a piece of software called 'Ping Plotter', if you download it you get the Pro version for 14 days(?) and then it becomes the free version (which is still useful). You can ping whatever you want with it and it gives you nice easy to read graphs that you can save and upload if you need to. Obviously use an ethernet cable if you want to test like this and don't use the internet for anything else or it will skew your results. By the way, if you're putting 10 bullets into someone and not getting the kill then some of them are definitely missing But I know exactly what you mean, it's very frustrating. Try the things I said (and post up the info I mentioned) and if there's no improvement then we'll have to look into it a bit further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonicBoom Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Hit detection is not good on this game still. Most rounds have at least a few weird moments, some have loads of them, in general it's not bad for me at least. It depends on a lot of things though, you can't control it if the server has a wobble, nor can you control the connections of the people you play against (and some of them have terrible connections), when it goes beyond what we can control you just have to grit your teeth and get into a different lobby. And try not to throw your pad through the window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellto Posted June 15, 2016 Author Share Posted June 15, 2016 You're welcome, I actually play on 60/60 congestion control sometimes. You may need to experiment sometimes. What are your normal internet speeds / bandwidth from your service provider? (not what you pay for but what you actually get). Make sure you follow that link I posted and you should be able to get an Open NAT. What country are you in? On PS4 there are lots more server banks than on Xbox, some of the PS4 servers probably play much better/worse than others - you could try putting your geo filter somewhere else and see if that improves (remember that changes to the geo filter can take a couple of minutes to take effect - so that we can't cheat). I'm on Xbox and for Western European gamers I think we only have the Microsoft Azure servers in Ireland (but they are good servers), I like playing on the US servers too but I've never actually checked which ones Urge is putting us onto. What was your ping when you did the Internet Diagnostics by the way? (as I said, that pings Google DNS 8.8.8.8 and people have been noticing weird results pinging it lately). When I want to test my ping I use a piece of software called 'Ping Plotter', if you download it you get the Pro version for 14 days(?) and then it becomes the free version (which is still useful). You can ping whatever you want with it and it gives you nice easy to read graphs that you can save and upload if you need to. Obviously use an ethernet cable if you want to test like this and don't use the internet for anything else or it will skew your results. By the way, if you're putting 10 bullets into someone and not getting the kill then some of them are definitely missing But I know exactly what you mean, it's very frustrating. Try the things I said (and post up the info I mentioned) and if there's no improvement then we'll have to look into it a bit further. Hey Colonic, I live in North Carolina and my geofilter is around 700 kilometers. Also, I get what I pay for which is 300 down and 21 up. When I did the Ping Diagnostics I got an OK ping. Also my PS4 has most of my bandwith. I have an Open NAT type now so thank you for that. I play on Reactive algorithm, should i swith to Preemptive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellto Posted June 15, 2016 Author Share Posted June 15, 2016 Hit detection is not good on this game still. when i went on pingtest.net, i got a 50 ping... WHYYY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted June 15, 2016 Administrators Share Posted June 15, 2016 In order to acheive your speeds (which will disable congestion control) Reactive Algorithm 100% anti-flood Share excess enabled Reset device prioritisation & apply Disable IPv6 in WAN, LAN & misc Disable deep packet in misc Enable turbo mode Enable super turbo mode Ensure the ethernet cables you're using connecting the R1 to hub & R1 to PC are Cat5e+/can handle your speeds. Do a wired speed test from a PC If you're getting that ping on a ping test that may be your base ping. Do a speed test as well. Is the ping the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonicBoom Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 when i went on pingtest.net, i got a 50 ping... WHYYY? It depends on the server that pingtest.net is connecting you too. 50ms is probably an 'ok' ping though, as far as the Internet Diagnostics goes. When you run 'Internet Diagnostics', you can click the details button below it to see the actual pings. If you really want to know how fast you can ping (and how stable your line is), you need to use Ping Plotter as I mentioned in my previous post for a longer period at peak time (like a couple of hours), Or run Command Prompt (Terminal on Mac). The Internet Diagnostics and pingtest.net are just snapshots of your ping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzy clam Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Hey Colonic, I live in North Carolina and my geofilter is around 700 kilometers. Also, I get what I pay for which is 300 down and 21 up. When I did the Ping Diagnostics I got an OK ping. Also my PS4 has most of my bandwith. I have an Open NAT type now so thank you for that. I play on Reactive algorithm, should i swith to Preemptive? Since your NC I would try all the servers in Alabama,Georgia and Florida and find out which one's play the best for you.There are many servers in those banks of dedis and they all play different,it's a pain in the ass but if you can figure out which dedis play better (I ended up writing them down to keep track of the better ones) it will help you out. Also like CB said play around with your CC,the 70/70 is just a starting point.Everyone's home network is different you may find depending on your network that 60/60 or 80/80 works better for your application. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellto Posted June 15, 2016 Author Share Posted June 15, 2016 In order to acheive your speeds (which will disable congestion control) Reactive Algorithm 100% anti-flood Share excess enabled Reset device prioritisation & apply Disable IPv6 in WAN, LAN & misc Disable deep packet in misc Enable turbo mode Enable super turbo mode Ensure the ethernet cables you're using connecting the R1 to hub & R1 to PC are Cat5e+/can handle your speeds. Do a wired speed test from a PC If you're getting that ping on a ping test that may be your base ping. Do a speed test as well. Is the ping the same? Will doing all of these get the best speed for my playstation? Or will it get the best speed for my internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellto Posted June 15, 2016 Author Share Posted June 15, 2016 It depends on the server that pingtest.net is connecting you too. 50ms is probably an 'ok' ping though, as far as the Internet Diagnostics goes. When you run 'Internet Diagnostics', you can click the details button below it to see the actual pings. If you really want to know how fast you can ping (and how stable your line is), you need to use Ping Plotter as I mentioned in my previous post for a longer period at peak time (like a couple of hours), Or run Command Prompt (Terminal on Mac). The Internet Diagnostics and pingtest.net are just snapshots of your ping. will bad ping also result in hit detection lag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonicBoom Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Will doing all of these get the best speed for my playstation? Or will it get the best speed for my internet The settings that Fraser has listed for you are for maximum speed (bandwidth), so you can stream, browse, download updates, at full speed across your devices. will bad ping also result in hit detection lag? A slower time to ping a server will not necessarily create bad hit detection, an unstable ping will though. If your ping is constantly 50ms then you should be fine. But if your ping bounces up and down, 50ms-20ms-120ms-50ms-25ms etc, this will cause problems in games (hit detection, 'instant' deaths, 'melting', etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellto Posted June 15, 2016 Author Share Posted June 15, 2016 In order to acheive your speeds (which will disable congestion control) Reactive Algorithm 100% anti-flood Share excess enabled Reset device prioritisation & apply Disable IPv6 in WAN, LAN & misc Disable deep packet in misc Enable turbo mode Enable super turbo mode Ensure the ethernet cables you're using connecting the R1 to hub & R1 to PC are Cat5e+/can handle your speeds. Do a wired speed test from a PC If you're getting that ping on a ping test that may be your base ping. Do a speed test as well. Is the ping the same? what settings would i use to get the best settings for my ps4? my family use a different router for wifi so the netduma is just for me. I have 300 down 21 up so please tell me the best settings just for my ps4. thank you so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonicBoom Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 what settings would i use to get the best settings for my ps4? my family use a different router for wifi so the netduma is just for me. I have 300 down 21 up so please tell me the best settings just for my ps4. thank you so much Normally you would set congestion control at 70/70 (as a starting point) to control lag spikes created by local congestion (like your family using the internet while you're trying to play). But this won't work if they are not connecting through the Netduma. You should set the Geo filter on your home, try with your range at about 1000km and set 'Ping Assist' to your 'base ping' + 20ms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellto Posted June 16, 2016 Author Share Posted June 16, 2016 Normally you would set congestion control at 70/70 (as a starting point) to control lag spikes created by local congestion (like your family using the internet while you're trying to play). But this won't work if they are not connecting through the Netduma. You should set the Geo filter on your home, try with your range at about 1000km and set 'Ping Assist' to your 'base ping' + 20ms. i put my geofilter in florida and the hit detection is alot better. Also, all my devices have the same bandwith because i followed the steps that fraser said. should i keep experimenting different geofilter locations? should i also change the settings that fraser suggested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellto Posted June 16, 2016 Author Share Posted June 16, 2016 In order to acheive your speeds (which will disable congestion control) Reactive Algorithm 100% anti-flood Share excess enabled Reset device prioritisation & apply Disable IPv6 in WAN, LAN & misc Disable deep packet in misc Enable turbo mode Enable super turbo mode Ensure the ethernet cables you're using connecting the R1 to hub & R1 to PC are Cat5e+/can handle your speeds. Do a wired speed test from a PC If you're getting that ping on a ping test that may be your base ping. Do a speed test as well. Is the ping the same? can i try putting my geofilter down to the lowest possible range, and setting my ing assist to 20 ms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillinger Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 can i try putting my geofilter down to the lowest possible range, and setting my ing assist to 20 ms? You need to factor in your BASE PING. At 20ms, you are telling the Ping Assist to look for any game OUTSIDE of your Geo Filter that is 20ms or less. If you base ping is 21ms (as an example) no games would qualify. That is why Colonic suggested your BASE PING PLUS an additional 20ms. Example: My base ping, depending on the day/time and which server, is around 23-24ms. I can set my ping assist to 38ms (which is about 15ms more than my base ping) and connect to games two states away. If I put in LOWER (30ms for example) I never connect outside my Geo Filter because my base ping is so high in relation to what I have said is an acceptable ping (23ms+7ms=30ms round trip). What I do get are long wait times for trying to Host a P2P lobby (no dedi in my home state) when the game is trying to put everyone else on the dedicated servers several states away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellto Posted June 16, 2016 Author Share Posted June 16, 2016 You need to factor in your BASE PING. At 20ms, you are telling the Ping Assist to look for any game OUTSIDE of your Geo Filter that is 20ms or less. If you base ping is 21ms (as an example) no games would qualify. That is why Colonic suggested your BASE PING PLUS an additional 20ms. Example: My base ping, depending on the day/time and which server, is around 23-24ms. I can set my ping assist to 38ms (which is about 15ms more than my base ping) and connect to games two states away. If I put in LOWER (30ms for example) I never connect outside my Geo Filter because my base ping is so high in relation to what I have said is an acceptable ping (23ms+7ms=30ms round trip). What I do get are long wait times for trying to Host a P2P lobby (no dedi in my home state) when the game is trying to put everyone else on the dedicated servers several states away. Oh okay, so my ping is around 27 so I should just keep it to around 40? because my ping in game scatters from 33 to 40 to 75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillinger Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Oh okay, so my ping is around 27 so I should just keep it to around 40? because my ping in game scatters from 33 to 40 to 75 Base Ping of 27, so you can play with the settings from there and watch the Geo Filter. If I extend my Ping Assist to say 70ms, I can connect all the way across the country. I don't necessarily want that. So try adding 15ms to your base ping and see how the game plays. This is important because it is subjective, and the more we explore gamers and the games they play here, we have noticed that what plays well for "us" may not be playing well in your eyes. Keep a cheat sheet with game notes and the server ID. Dedicated server locations are big buildings filled with racks and racks of servers. Just because you play one in "that location" doesn't mean it is the only one. Some banks have 15 or 20 different ID'd boxes, so hitting 'Temp Ban' will only ban that one box. Personally I have a couple of boxes in the LA area I do not like playing, because for whatever reason, they don't play well to me. Don't put too much stock in the "In Game" ping. This varies and several of us have seen real world proof that the numbers provided are not representative of what we are really seeing based on the Duma's in game readings. Start with 15ms and see what 20 or 30ms. If you like the way it plays with 18ms of Ping Assist, write it down and grind that setting for a bit. If it doesn't play to your liking, note the box and the location, then move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted June 17, 2016 Administrators Share Posted June 17, 2016 As you're speeds are that high and devices aren't all connected to the duma you can only really make use of the Geo-filter. Try out Dillingers suggestions above and see how you go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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