roberto2212 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 hello I tryed play NHL 16 on PS4 but connection still laging.My every opponents is twice faster,twice faster respond, I cannot score(from 200 shoots on goalie I scored only twice in 8 matches in raw).Played 30 games and 28 I loose.My connection is billion 8800nl in bridge mode plus pppoe on netduma(provider is plusnet uk).I followed settings on http://wiki.netduma.com/doku.phpalso tryed fifa profile but still laging.When I unconnected netduma and I used only billion 8800nl than worked perfect (10 games in raw and I won 9).So I looking for any advice or I looked for refund for faulty router.Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted May 22, 2016 Administrators Share Posted May 22, 2016 Hey, welcome to the forum! Firstly please don't create 3 separate threads for your issue. I've deleted the other 2 and put this in General Support. I can't diagnose an issue based on your gameplay. Can you let me know what the typical ping you get is as shown by the duma please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roberto2212 Posted May 22, 2016 Author Share Posted May 22, 2016 If I run ping test showed me 14-18ms.When I tested network showed me everything ok like speedtest.net or pingtest.net, jitter 0-1.But my every opponents is still faster twice.Fastest respond on puck.I cannot pass or score my players are without acceleration they looks like chicken on ice.Upnp is on,portforwarding working checked by pc with software from website portforward.com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonicBoom Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 What is your ping to games, in the 'host-filtering' tab of the Netduma? Also, what is your base-ping - from the 'diagnostics' tab of the Netduma? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roberto2212 Posted May 23, 2016 Author Share Posted May 23, 2016 Base ping is 14-18ms and ping to game I dont know because used fifa profile where is autoping and assis.ping off.Also tryed auto ping off and I set assis.ping to 40-50, or 30 but same result. With some players I got 40,45 sometimes 55msAnd mostly connected me with players from finland only.One more time connected with germany players with ping 32ms but result was same,still was my opponents Fastest like me.What is strange that my HUT NHL 16 team got overall 99/98/99 and I stil slowly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted May 23, 2016 Administrators Share Posted May 23, 2016 Okay so that means minimum your ping is 14-18ms, so connecting to a game expect at least 20ms on top of that. So sounds like you're getting the lowest possible ping for your connection. Ensure all devices connected to the R1, speeds input into bandwidth settings and allow it to auto setup. 70/70 anti-flood, console in hyper traffic. 1000km radius, strict on, PA 0, auto ping on and see how you get on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roberto2212 Posted May 23, 2016 Author Share Posted May 23, 2016 Already tryed.I Played 20 games all loose.Opponents is faster twice sometimes three times.My connection still laging.In this point is this game unplayable.On netduma is connected only pc and ps4.No more device.Switch back to billion 8800 and working better no lag or delay, I can score everything is ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roberto2212 Posted May 23, 2016 Author Share Posted May 23, 2016 Any advices???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonicBoom Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Any advices???? It sounds like your Netduma is working perfectly. It is not supposed to make you win, it is supposed to help you filter bad host and protect you from local lag etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roberto2212 Posted May 23, 2016 Author Share Posted May 23, 2016 Really?So explain to me why my every opponents is faster twice ,fast respond on puck,fast reaction.?And my players are slowly no reaction.When I press x on my gamepad I see on my tv delay maybe half second.And explain me how is possible if I switched to bilion8800 nl and no lag,no delay players is fast.A won 5 titlle in div.1 HUT nhl16.When I switched to netduma I cannot win any match in di.3..I loose maybe 30 matches in raw.So dont telling me that router working perfect.Already I Played 1000 matches and I see different between netduma and billion8800nl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zennon Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Please follow these instructions and post back the results please. http://wiki.netduma.com/doku.php?id=lag_support_instructions&s[]=screen The internet diagnostics should be ran at peak times so 8pm onwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roberto2212 Posted May 23, 2016 Author Share Posted May 23, 2016 Ok I will do this.And also if I set home in Uk,radius 1000km than I can not connect to any players.So I change my home to germany with 1000 km radius and I can connect only with players from Finland.Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roberto2212 Posted May 23, 2016 Author Share Posted May 23, 2016 my speed is 80/20 from my provider but my speedtest showed me 72/15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonicBoom Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Ok I will do this.And also if I set home in Uk,radius 1000km than I can not connect to any players.So I change my home to germany with 1000 km radius and I can connect only with players from Finland.Why? They have a lot of ice there I expect. You're in the UK and you've set your GeoFilter to force you to connect to games mainly on mainland Europe, Scandinavia and Western Russia. I would recommend clearing the cache on your PS4 and rebooting all of the network equipment. Unplug it ALL for 10 mins. Plug in the modem/isp hub (whatever is first in your network) and wait for 5 minutes. Then turn on the next network device (your Netduma probably) and wait 5 minutes. If you have another router, after the Netduma, turn it on and wait for 5 minutes. Boot up your PS4. Log into your Netduma and enable cookies in miscellaneous settings. Enable 'Turbo' mode. Set your Anti-Flood at 70% / 70%. Put your PS4 in HyperLane. Enable the Geo for your PS4. Set ping assist at 40ms-50ms. Enable strict mode. Put your home in the ocean and make the radius so small that it can't pick any hosts (not covering any land). Wait a couple of minutes for these GeoFilter settings to take effect (anti-cheat delay). Reboot your Netduma. Now try to get a game. If you can't get any games then you'll have to increase the Ping Assist value or put the GeoFilter back over land and increase the radius until you get games. *Remember there is an 'anti-cheat' delay before these changes to the host filtering take effect (2 mins I think). If you don't want to play people in Finland then don't put your GeoFilter over Finland but if the majority of players happen to be in Finland then that's where the majority of games will be. If you're still sucking at the game because everyone is twice as fast as you but you know you should be winning every game because your feet are faster than Michael Flatley's (I taught him to dance by the way), then make a video showing how bad it is, put it on youtube and post the link in here for us to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonicBoom Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 my speed is 80/20 from my provider but my speedtest showed me 72/15 This is not unusual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonicBoom Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 After a quick Google... NHL game sales have been dropping badly and (Google tells me) that it sold under 800,000 copies, 8 months ago, on PS4 and XboxOne combined. Considering the following too... The vast majority of these sales are probably from North America and a very (very very very) small number in the UK because, let's face it, it's an ice-skating game. 8 months is a long time for a game like this (or most games actually) so we'll estimate that at least 75% of these people don't play it anymore at all, never mind play online. You could well be struggling to find games because there might not actually be many to join. In which case, when you do finally get a game, you're at the mercy of the opponents connection. I'd probably just disable the GeoFilter if I wanted to play this one. I certainly wouldn't be sticking my GeoFilter over Finland though. And have you tried a different game (preferably a game that actually still has a player base) to see how that plays? That will help us diagnose the problem further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roberto2212 Posted May 24, 2016 Author Share Posted May 24, 2016 Thanks for reply, but if I play throught billion8800nl just waiting maybe 5 second for opponents. Still got online match without problem.Si this game still play a lot players, so this is no problem. I know that noone play this game from Uk because it is ice hockey game.But unfortunately I owning only this game with ps4.Maybe I finded solution. I restore R1,set billion8800nl in pppoe and in R1 set static wan.Set static ip R1 to DMZ on billion8800nl. And what was magic is that I turned off upnp on both routers.Set home to germany with 1000km range,auto ping.And looks that again this game working.No lag or delay.Played 10 games and all I won.So I will test this in few next days and we will see.Maybe R1 had few bugs with pppoe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted May 24, 2016 Administrators Share Posted May 24, 2016 Glad to hear you found a solution, keep us updated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roberto2212 Posted May 25, 2016 Author Share Posted May 25, 2016 Question, if I turned off in host filtering my ps4 than still showed me players on my radar when I start game.Why, when it is off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zennon Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Your restrictions via the filter are off but the hosts & players still show this is normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roberto2212 Posted May 25, 2016 Author Share Posted May 25, 2016 Ok thanks for reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roberto2212 Posted May 25, 2016 Author Share Posted May 25, 2016 tested for two days again no worked.Played 25 games all loose.In 25 games I score only three times.In one match 45 shoots on goalie and no score, my opponents 10 shoots and score 6 times without problem from any possition.This is really frustrating.In geo I untick autoping and I set PA to 40ms, distance1200km.When I connected to opponents and I checked ping (peer ping tick) showed me 55 or 60 ms.Why if I set 40ms?If I turned off geo all is same.Also tryed tun off port forwarding and turn on upnp,reboot router and still same issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonicBoom Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 The Geofilter and Ping Assist affect different things. The circle allows you to join hosts within that circle. The Ping Assist value allows you to join hosts with that ping or lower. If you have the circle AND ping assist then you can get people within the circle AND anyone outside of the circle with a ping of 40ms or lower. 'Peer Ping' does not affect anything anyway, it is a tool for checking pings for PC gamers (not for consoles). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roberto2212 Posted May 25, 2016 Author Share Posted May 25, 2016 Ok thanks.I dont understand why after my connection laging.Looks like something block in my connection.I checked few forums about NHL16.Few players had some problem.Looks like my opponents see little bit early what I will do.Thats why I cannot score.Maybe is problem with mtu.I used pppoe connection with 1492 mtu.I double checked on pc with cmd.But if I set 1492 on ps4 showed me error that my router no support ip fragmentatio.If I set auto mtu everything is fine.Also Im not using dns plusnet but different faster(checked with dns benchmarky) but this is no problem I think.Any advices? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted May 26, 2016 Administrators Share Posted May 26, 2016 DNS & MTU will make negligible differences. Put your location over the UK as that is where you're located so you're likely to get closer games to you. Stop thinking about wins/losses as we can't diagnose that. Just average pings to the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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