Question on jitter

[kinel]

I was wondering say i am playing any game  and my ping to there dedi is 10 ms

But i may have jitter on my line of say around 25 ms

Will it show up on the ping graph bar meter 

So on my ping bar would show 10 ms ping to the dedi and if jitter occours the ping graph bar would show now 35 ms

Is this correct please help             cheers

 

[Zennon]

It would show a base ping of 10ms with spikes up to 35ms

[kinel]

Cheers zennon 

Its weird when i check dslreports for bufferbloat ie jitter it shows i have ocasional jitter

with my congestion control setings dl 60% up 60% or less

With still 25ms buffer bloat spikes ocasionaly

But it never shows on ping grapth

[Zennon]

Use ping plotter https://www.pingplotter.com/download.html

 

Type 8.8.8.8 or any other local IP into target and press go, it is best to test on a night around 8pm onwards to check for ISP congestion.

 

File : save image , if you want to upload the results to the forum.

[kinel]

Cheers  i have done that a few moths ago 

Lol it was your advise i followed i rember posting the results on here

Thanks again zennon for your time and help

[Zennon]

Your line can change in hours, I run tests daily and before I game.

 

Your ISP adds new users added and do not add extra bandwidth and boom jitter and speed low downs.

[kinel]

omg i just ran ping plotter loads of times my results are weird

i ping 8 .8.8.8 with duma i get 85 percent packet loss at hop 1

then i did same tese without duma connected  and there wass no pacet loss then

if i ping to bbc.co.uk i get 100 percent packet loss at final hop

this is conected to  modem with no netduma then i did same test with duma exact same results

[Zennon]

File: save image and upload the plots kinel please

[kinel]

ok  here are some of the results

1 8.8.8.8

https://gyazo.com/e9bc3c644e8c849e0694eab0c9f7d259

2g+oogle+

https://gyazo.com/f102889c4ef731ceddd755851d9c41f1

[Zennon]

Test with a new Ethernet between your ISP router and the duma.

 

Also test straight from the ISP router and upload the plot.

[kinel]

this is now direct to modem brand new cat 6e cable   no duma

i forgot to mention all my test before was with brand new cables

18.8.8.8 no duma no packet loss

https://gyazo.com/640b0ea4cf32f120dcdd500ba5ab488c

 

 

2google no duma packet loss

https://gyazo.com/a2c785a87cd1fa329364bdcbbee2084a

[Zennon]

Looks like google is having a bad day the other plot proves that.

 

Wire the duma back up with the new Ethernet and show me the plots , thanks.

[Alex49H]

Google was having problems as of yesterday. I was getting red bars on the graph screen and packet loss. That's why we are grateful for Dr. Z and his plethora of knowledge!

[kinel]

here are results with duma

1  https://gyazo.com/bf5bb0f3235947e51cc3a9c6b738a8a3

 

2 https://gyazo.com/3d6ecac9e295b16c1720d1e6c88794e4

[kinel]

i just brouught a brand new cat 5e cable  i just ran test

still showing  a little packet loss

https://gyazo.com/9fd960ca33745bfc3d4976bbcb083954

[kinel]

another test with brand new cable

https://gyazo.com/a2d9cc05c1ad6992cb1eb98f4ad0f85d

 

i have tried last night turning off my modem and router  i turned off modem  and  router together

then turned back on my modem first then 5 mins later turned on my netduma after 5 mins

i also did a holding in of my modems reset button so it did factory reset 

modem is a huwaie 612 i bouught off ebay in december

a few days ago i did a factory reset of my duma as well

i dont know what else to do apart from cry lol

[Zennon]

Do you have a BT VDSL face plate ? bagsta had this problem and it turned out to be a bad filter.

 

He replaced the face plate and it fixed the problem.

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-BT-Openreach-NTe5a-Master-Socket-MARK-3-vDSL-ADSL-Phone-Filter-Box-/262428903702?hash=item3d19fb4916:g:VZ8AAOSwBLlVIv5r

[kinel]

that looks like my old fillter box before i got fiber optic from talktalk

plus i dont think i would ever be able to change the bow i would be to scared incase i got electicuted lol

plus i think its the router as i it dosent show any packet loss if im connected to the huawie 612 modem on it own

but i aint sure

[BENORMOUS]

Lol you can't get some shock from telephone wire they are incredibly easy to change mate I did mine at my old address about 6 years ago and it made a hell of a difference back then

[Zennon]

that looks like my old fillter box before i got fiber optic from talktalk

plus i dont think i would ever be able to change the bow i would be to scared incase i got electicuted lol

plus i think its the router as i it dosent show any packet loss if im connected to the huawie 612 modem on it own

but i aint sure

It is something you could try if you have change all Ethernets and Rj11 cables.

[BENORMOUS]

Any particular rj11 zennon or are the flat ones the isp sends out OK?

[Zennon]

I prefer to use twisted pair Rj11 cable to defect any noise.

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=twisted+pair+rj11&_sacat=0

[kinel]

Yeh ile have to try next week hopefully to buy one and install it 

I just plugged in my tp link  router and i had same  problem 

Cheers guys for all your help

I thought if i had packet loss you wouldnt be able to  connect online

So what exactly does packet loss do

Im guessing if i had 70 %packet loss and i sent 100 bits of information only 30 %would be recieved?

Againthanks all for the help

[Zennon]

Packets have to re-transmit until they get to their destination then you receive a packet to say it got there.

[kinel]

Thanks