Knomax Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 Hello to "Netduma Army" First of all i want to say that i am not a "guru" in networking and this post or advice is to have something to start to find the settings that works best for YOU. Let us not kid ourselves...the settings that "admins".."lain" and every other is for the start i think...(i don't say this for bad ok? ) We live in different countrys...have different ISP's....have different internet lines...different speeds (upload-download)...so it's impossible these settings to work for everyone...maybe partially working some of them but not all of them. Sooooo...we need to find these "sweet spot" for us. My equipment then and my internet is as follows... VDSL2..50Mbps download...5Mbps upload (my actual speed is 45-48 for download and 4,50-4,80 for upload) Modem router:TPLink TD-W9980 ----->Netduma---->PS3 1. I put Netduma in DMZ in TPLink 2. In TPLink i disable UPNP 3. I use Preemptive with "deep packet" ticked..look photo. 4. Check your cables in every device you have if it is loose especially the red cable between your modem or router and R1...believe me it can raise your PING dramatically. 5. Next go to dslreports and check your line..the best results is to have grading A+ in all of them...but especially you need BufferBloat and Quality.....in Speed does not matter if you take A ....games τhey require much less bandwidth than you think. To do this play with sliders in congestion control and check again and again until you get the values I mentioned earlier (A+)...see photo. My PING Diagnostics... For my Geo location...ISP...and generally of all the infrastructure i have is the best I can get. I hope your internet infrastructure be better than mine and take better values.... The rest of my settings is... VPN --->Disconnected Port Forwarding--->none rule UPnP--->Enable DNS--->Automatic DNS IPv6--->Disabled MTU--->Auto MTU DHCP Lease--->give in your device a specific IP address (PS3) ...it helps a lot i think and prevent any conficts that may occur...see photo. To find MAC address..etc in PS3 go to Network Settings--->connection status list....write in a paper the MAC address you see....easy??? Something simillar i think it has XBox One and PS4. The "valid number of IP" that i am saying in photo you can take it from DHCP server range...for example.... You see that i put the number "101" for my PS3... So go to Netduma....Settings--->LAN--->DHCP and take a number from that range...see photo Sooo as you see in photo's i choose "101" so the IP that PS3 will take is "192.168.88.101" ..keep it that we will need it... To set up a Static IP in your console follow these guides... For PS3 when you go to "Custom" etc the IP that you must write is "192.168.88.101" ...Subnet Mask..255.255.255.0... in Default router...write the IP of Netduma that you use to login...for my example is 192.168.88.1... Primary DNS....the same ...192.168.88.1 Secondary DNS ...leave it 0.0.0.0... MTU...aytomatic... Proxy Server...do not use... UPnP....enable... check connection..if you did everything correctly your NAT type will be 2...and in game will show that your NAT type is open... For PS4 From the main menu, choose Settings....select Network....select Set Up Internet Connection.... Choose Wifi or LAN Cable depending on how your local network is set up. On the screen titled "How do you want to set up the Internet connection?," choose Custom On the IP Address Settings screen, choose Manual Select IP Address Enter the number that you have chosen for the IP address. Select Done (remember as i said before?101?..write "192.168.88.101" for IP) Select Subnet Mask (etc 255.255.255.0) Select Done Select Default Gateway, enter your router's IP address(etc 192.168.88.1). Select Done Select Primary DNS (write routers IP etc 192.168.88.1 as i said before) Select Done Select Secondary DNS...leave it 0.0.0.0 or blank. Select Done Select Next On the MTU Settings screen, choose Automatic Select Subnet Mask....(255.255.255.0 etc) Select Done Select Default Gateway, enter your router's IP address(etc 192.168.88.1. Select Done Select Primary DNS...write the IP that you use to login in Netduma...etc 192.168.88.1 Select Secondary DNS ...leave it 0.0.0.0 or blank. Select Done Select Next On the MTU Settings screen, choose Automatic On the Proxy Server screen, choose Do Not Use Select Test Internet Connection. Wait while the connection is tested. For Xbox One Go to the home screen and push the menu button on the controller Select Settings Select Network Select Advanced settings select IP settings Select Manual Type in the IP address you have chosen (etc "192.168.88.101") and select Enter Type in the subnet mask ( etc 255.255.255.0) Select Enter Type in your gateway which is your router's internal IP address (etc 192.168.88.1) and select Enter Go back to the advanced settings screen... Choose DNS settings Type in the Primary DNS address (etc 192.168.88.1 is Netduma IP that you use to login) then select Enter Type in the Secondary DNS address(leave it 0.0.0.0 or blank) and select Enter On the Advanced settings screen choose Save Go back to the Network settings screen, choose Test network connection The test will run and check your network connection status. Wait while the test runs. When the test is finished you should see the "It's all good" message. I hope I helped you!
nffcbaz72 Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 Nice work, thanks for sharing, will have a gander later. Baz.
Akic Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 Just a reminder deep packet processing is of no use on consoles
Knomax Posted January 6, 2016 Author Posted January 6, 2016 Yes i know..i said somehow working better for me....
Alex49H Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 Question: why put the routers IP address in the DNS setting?
Knomax Posted January 6, 2016 Author Posted January 6, 2016 Because you use Netduma to connect to your primary router or modem....Netduma is behind your router or modem...that's why you put it in DMZ in your primary....you don't use it to connect directly to your ISP.
Alex49H Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 Because you use Netduma to connect to your primary router or modem....Netduma is behind your router or modem...that's why you put it in DMZ in your primary....you don't use it to connect directly to your ISP. Ah ok I understand. Thank you.
JConnor Posted January 7, 2016 Posted January 7, 2016 Knomax: I wanted you to know that because of your guide, I finally have "open" NAT on my XB1 that was forever "Moderate". Giving my consoles (+ PS4) static IP addresses is what did it, so KUDOS to you on this fantastic and easy to follow guide
Knomax Posted January 7, 2016 Author Posted January 7, 2016 Glad you got now open NAT ... As I said before to give a static IP on devices almost always solves problems not creates. Giving static IP avoids conflicts that may exist for some reason. Anyway the point is to make our job.
Alex49H Posted January 7, 2016 Posted January 7, 2016 Because you use Netduma to connect to your primary router or modem....Netduma is behind your router or modem...that's why you put it in DMZ in your primary....you don't use it to connect directly to your ISP. But only when using 2 routers and placing one in DMZ? Currently I am only using the R1 only behind my modem so I do not have to do this?
JConnor Posted January 7, 2016 Posted January 7, 2016 But only when using 2 routers and placing one in DMZ? Currently I am only using the R1 only behind my modem so I do not have to do this? This is my setup as well (TWC modem --> R1 Netduma --> Multiple devices). The TWC modem is in Bridge Mode (DMZ). I gave everything a static IP and put the R1 as the Primary DNS on each one along with their own IP.
Knomax Posted January 7, 2016 Author Posted January 7, 2016 But only when using 2 routers and placing one in DMZ? Currently I am only using the R1 only behind my modem so I do not have to do this? This is my setup as well (TWC modem --> R1 Netduma --> Multiple devices). The TWC modem is in Bridge Mode (DMZ). I gave everything a static IP and put the R1 as the Primary DNS on each one along with their own IP. As JConnor says...follow the guide... All of your devices are connected to R1...so you write as Primary DNS the IP you login in R1...etc 192.168.88.1...because your device communicate with R1. The set up you have to use....your modem--->Netduma--->devices. Look in your modem if it has DMZ...look in Netduma "Device Manager" page..you see "WAN IP"....copy this IP and paste in your modem DMZ.Why this?? DMZ will open all ports for this specific IP....so in our case all ports are know open for Netduma. Next as guide says you must route these open ports in your device...that's why you set up a static IP in you device....everything must have continuity. I hope not to confuse more.
nffcbaz72 Posted January 8, 2016 Posted January 8, 2016 Done about 35 tests with the anti flood, can't get 2 on "A". But has gone from c,d,f to b,a+,f. Now to test it on bops3. Baz.
Knomax Posted January 8, 2016 Author Posted January 8, 2016 Your PC must be wired to take "real" values...wireless isn't accurate and have losses or connect it as your console set up is...if your console is connected wireless when you play...do the tests the same way with your pc.And what algorithm do you use?Preemptive focus on ping and Reactive in bandwidth...use the same algorithm that you use when playing.Give a try and reboot your modem...after a minute connect R1....go in login page and reboot it from "Miscellaneous Settings"....wait a minute...open your pc...open your browser...delete cache from your browser and start the tests....in your browser open only in tab the Netduma page in CC to play with Download/Upload and a second tab with dslreports test....start the test...do not hurt at all until finish the test...don't change tab until finish. See the results..make you change in CC and do it again...I'm pretty sure that you will get better values.
KurtK24 Posted January 8, 2016 Posted January 8, 2016 As JConnor says...follow the guide... All of your devices are connected to R1...so you write as Primary DNS the IP you login in R1...etc 192.168.88.1...because your device communicate with R1. The set up you have to use....your modem--->Netduma--->devices. Look in your modem if it has DMZ...look in Netduma "Device Manager" page..you see "WAN IP"....copy this IP and paste in your modem DMZ.Why this?? DMZ will open all ports for this specific IP....so in our case all ports are know open for Netduma. Next as guide says you must route these open ports in your device...that's why you set up a static IP in you device....everything must have continuity. I hope not to confuse more. I have WISP (radio signal) and I dont technically have a modem just a power box that I connect my Netduma directly into. Will this setup work for me?
Knomax Posted January 8, 2016 Author Posted January 8, 2016 Give it a try....if you can set up this power box...just like you set up it for Netduma.
KurtK24 Posted January 8, 2016 Posted January 8, 2016 I am going to try it tonight. I am having problems with my mic cutting out for certain players in party chat and I am always the one getting kicked from the party in game all while playing with geo-filter off. I have tried a million different things but nothing has changed at all. My old router is doing the same thing.
nffcbaz72 Posted January 8, 2016 Posted January 8, 2016 Your PC must be wired to take "real" values...wireless isn't accurate and have losses or connect it as your console set up is...if your console is connected wireless when you play...do the tests the same way with your pc.And what algorithm do you use?Preemptive focus on ping and Reactive in bandwidth...use the same algorithm that you use when playing.Give a try and reboot your modem...after a minute connect R1....go in login page and reboot it from "Miscellaneous Settings"....wait a minute...open your pc...open your browser...delete cache from your browser and start the tests....in your browser open only in tab the Netduma page in CC to play with Download/Upload and a second tab with dslreports test....start the test...do not hurt at all until finish the test...don't change tab until finish. See the results..make you change in CC and do it again...I'm pretty sure that you will get better values. Use pre, and PC is wired to r1, as is xb1. Seemed to play better actually, had some wtf moments, but better. May be just good server, will try again soon.
Stro3579 Posted January 20, 2016 Posted January 20, 2016 If I am using modem to R1 to devices can I still use your porting guide? I get 100mbs dn and 5 up.
Pranksterr Posted January 20, 2016 Posted January 20, 2016 Big thanks to the OP, very good guide. I have encountered an issue though... Pretty sure I've followed this guide well and I've seen the results via dslreport. The issue is to do with Destiny, surprise surprise From going from, the Geo working quite well for me, apart from servers that have not been added to the cloud yet. To now it now no longer seems to work at all. I'm now matching with people all over the world. Now I must say that my connection feels a lot more solid, which I'm putting down to this guide. But is there a possibility that I've undone my setup for Destiny by doing so?
Knomax Posted January 21, 2016 Author Posted January 21, 2016 I don't think so that you have undone your setup for Destiny..play some games to test it.I think will be better not worse.
Knomax Posted January 21, 2016 Author Posted January 21, 2016 If I am using modem to R1 to devices can I still use your porting guide? I get 100mbs dn and 5 up. You can still use it if your devices are connected to R1.
chibucks Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 how did you get an A for speed on dsl reports - i'm at 40/10 and i get an F? btw, nice setup guide!
Knomax Posted January 22, 2016 Author Posted January 22, 2016 Play with Preemptive and Reactive...Preemptive focus on ping...Reactive focus on speed (download/upload)....so i think you must try Reactive and play with bars...But eventually no matter the speed on consoles....they require very little speed what matters is bufferbloat and quality..in these two thinks you must focus.
Dillinger Posted January 22, 2016 Posted January 22, 2016 how did you get an A for speed on dsl reports - i'm at 40/10 and i get an F? btw, nice setup guide! Are you doing the test over the wireless by any chance? If so, hardwire your laptop/PC to the router and try the test again.
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