no.way.mad.tha Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Hi everyone I'm Dan. Just bought my first ever gaming router the Netduma R3 I'm with BT Full Fibre 500mb internet with a 1m Cat 8 ethernet cable connection for my PS5. The reason for the purchase of the R3 was I play FIFA (FC24) and MW3 but experience bad sluggish gameplay (every game for FIFA) and now and then for MW3. All my MW3 Lobby's were ALWAYS French and German speaking and never matched with UK teams, I also noticed a lot of 1v1 fights I'd seem to lose even though I nailed them first. So I thought it may be a incorrect server connection issue. Also with FIFA (my biggest issue) every game is awful in terms of delayed response from my players. The game just feels off, VERY VERY FRUSTRATING. I again was always connected to French and German players. I'm based in Liverpool UK. My average gameplay before buying the R3 on FIFA was showing between 10-24ms now with the R3 it's popped up to between 30-38ms my gameplay is so heavy and unresponsive. With my gameplay being dogsh*t still I was wondering if I could get any help from the masterminds on here. This is my current ISP Router setup Firewall - Default UPnP - On UPnP Extended security - Off DMZ - On - Device - Netduma R3 No Port Forwards (tried many times with specific FIFA ports and nothing changed in my experience) This is my Current R3 setup Geo Filter - Netherlands as saying best server 19ms Steady Ping - Active Gaming Activity usage - It actually says 0mbps but I've played 1 hour this morning to test. I was wondering why the R3 has made my ping worse, is there something I'm doing wrong here? I was wondering if I'm behind a double firewall or something. Or I may be missing something obvious. I'd also love to be able to have my PS5 to open NAT type but I've never been able to successfully do it. Any help would be greatly appreciated as I'm spending lots of money on a great gaming experience and It's horrendous right now. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted February 23 Administrators Share Posted February 23 Are ALL devices connected to the R3? How are you checking NAT, on the console network settings or in game? How do you have Congestion Control set? Disable Steady Ping, that is the likely cause of the higher ping (it does do this by design), is it lower then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no.way.mad.tha Posted February 23 Author Share Posted February 23 Hello Fraser Thanks for your reply! The only devices connected via ethernet is my PS5, I did some research on NAT Type and aprently you can't switch to Open nat with a 192.168.. IP? I check via the console settings for NAT Type. I have now disabled steady ping thank you. Congestion Control? I have not seen this setting on the R3? Is it worth opening ports via the NetdumaOS? As I have done with my PS5 on my ISP router? Currently I played some games of FC24 before, some matches connection performances where showing up in the app for the devices page then went off and never came back on. Thanks again for reply I'm going crazy trying to fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted February 23 Administrators Share Posted February 23 All devices should be connected to the R3 via WiFi or ethernet so it can effectively control the network, otherwise devices connected to your ISP router could cause you to lag. The NAT type has nothing to do with the IP, NAT Type 2 is open, it just means you're behind a router, it's only possible to get NAT Type 1 behind a modem but functionally there is no difference, you have done what is needed for an Open NAT. You can find Congestion Control in Ping Optimizer > Advanced. You don't need to open ports. Let us know how you get on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no.way.mad.tha Posted February 23 Author Share Posted February 23 Nothing is connected to my existing ISP router But the R3 then my PS5 is connected to the R3 tyen my mac is connected via wifi. Congestion Control is on Auto at the moment. I disabled steady ping no difference currently getting 38 ping (from usual 12-22) in FC24 now with visual lag and heavy gameplay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted February 23 Administrators Share Posted February 23 Set Congestion Control to Always and make the download/upload percentages at 70%. Can you provide a screenshot of the Geo-Filter page please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no.way.mad.tha Posted February 23 Author Share Posted February 23 Thank you for the support I've made those adjustments. Please see image of screenshot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted February 23 Administrators Share Posted February 23 That looks fine from what I can see, are you getting games within the radius? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no.way.mad.tha Posted February 23 Author Share Posted February 23 I’ve made the changes you said testing games now all seem to be the best I’ve ever had! 11-15 ping thank you so much for your help you are a hero! I’ve struggled with this for years! i currently have my isp rounter firewall disabled should I set that back to defualt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmz4104 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 My first gaming router too, my only advice about the R3 would be to return it now while you still can and MAYBE purchase it again after if/all the issues are resolved. caipirinha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmz4104 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 For reference as a PS5 user. None of the features work correctly and if they do they won’t for long. I’m currently down to rebooting daily just to get logged into the software. Geo-filter works sometimes. Ping heatmap is useless unless you play one of the 10 games listed. Congestion control has no impact. None of the stat data works and been waiting on HVPN for forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanyKTM Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Go to geofilter, desactve steady ping and set your ping assist between 50-120, work fine with me, I dont know why, but if I put it on 0, it worst no.way.mad.tha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted February 23 Administrators Share Posted February 23 Glad to hear it's working for you now! For anyone else do make a topic and we'll be happy to help DanyKTM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no.way.mad.tha Posted February 23 Author Share Posted February 23 Yeah it’s gone awful again ladt 3 matches my opponent just running through me cant even switch players or make a turn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no.way.mad.tha Posted February 23 Author Share Posted February 23 4 hours ago, Netduma Fraser said: Glad to hear it's working for you now! For anyone else do make a topic and we'll be happy to help Yeah gone awful again infuriating gameplay cant even move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted February 24 Administrators Share Posted February 24 What's the average ping on the Geo-Filter and in game you're seeing now? How stable is the ping is it spiking, if so by how much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no.way.mad.tha Posted February 24 Author Share Posted February 24 10 hours ago, Netduma Fraser said: What's the average ping on the Geo-Filter and in game you're seeing now? How stable is the ping is it spiking, if so by how much? You know what the ping wasn't too bad, but the gameplay was well off really delayed just a pain in the arse, I think EA servers have a lot to do with it. I had 5-6 great games for the first time in years and then it just went back to the same crap. I'll do some more testing today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted February 24 Administrators Share Posted February 24 Okay keep us posted! Sometimes you will just get bad servers that may be under load for example and there won't be anything you can do as the issue isn't on your side. Best thing is to add that server to your denied list and try another server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no.way.mad.tha Posted February 25 Author Share Posted February 25 16 hours ago, Netduma Fraser said: Okay keep us posted! Sometimes you will just get bad servers that may be under load for example and there won't be anything you can do as the issue isn't on your side. Best thing is to add that server to your denied list and try another server. Hi Fraser Still very frustrated with this mate. So I've reduced my geo Filter to the UK only (193 miles from Liverpool) My ping is fluctuating between 10-17 ping constantly on my last game and the gameplay was horrible very slow and delayed and a few matches before this was visual lag, or frame rate issues. Both players where from the Netherlands. How am I being connected with these players if I've reduced my geo filter? I'm also not getting any connection response through the app regarding my device connection and live performance whilst in a game. On the Desktop version too it shows my PS5 is inactive too. Is there something I'm missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted February 25 Administrators Share Posted February 25 How do you have your Congestion Control setup? You can only force the server you connect to, you can't impact other players and where they connect to. Just like you could force a EU server even though you're in the UK, someone from the EU can also join a UK server. It's the connection to the server that matters so you'll have the advantage. As in you're not seeing a server on the Geo-Filter map or it showing you a ping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no.way.mad.tha Posted February 25 Author Share Posted February 25 2 hours ago, Netduma Fraser said: How do you have your Congestion Control setup? You can only force the server you connect to, you can't impact other players and where they connect to. Just like you could force a EU server even though you're in the UK, someone from the EU can also join a UK server. It's the connection to the server that matters so you'll have the advantage. As in you're not seeing a server on the Geo-Filter map or it showing you a ping? Yes I understand that, it all makes having these tools pointless in a way, as what I'm trying to avoid is still happening no matter what I do. Not Netdumas fault obviously but very annoying in general, The thing is as you say regarding advantage, there is non, as my gameplay is shockingly delayed and the opponent in Netherlands is slicing through me like butter. The main server for FC24 is in Germany so I believe or Netherlands, so they will get the advantage which is why I closed in my geo filter. Anyway, currently I'm unsure what to do next, I'm averaging 40ms now from around 10-24ms every single game is painful for me. Even when it says the ping is 10-14ms it's still awful, I'm unsure if it's my end though something I've done in my set up which is an issue. For example my ISP wifi is still active and devices at home or connected to it via wifi, unsure if I'm maybe under a double firewall or something. I'm not very technical doing my best. Steady ping is off. Not sure where to see ping via the Geo Filter map but the heat map shows Netherlands at 17ms Geo filter has now been set to 377 miles including the Dutch Server for FC24 which is 17ms PS5 Device showing Inactive. 0 Mbps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted February 25 Administrators Share Posted February 25 Okay so ALL devices should be connected to the R3 ideally if the QoS is to be as effective as possible so that may be part of it. How do you have Congestion Control setup? You could be getting lag compensated, in which case forcing those servers with a higher ping should help even the playing field. Does the ISP modem/router have a bridge/modem mode at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no.way.mad.tha Posted February 26 Author Share Posted February 26 Hello mate I've put the Mac on the R3 WIFI Is it worth turning off my default firewall on my ISP Router? I'm on a BT HUB 2 Congestion Control is set to Always On via your instruction. Ping optimiser is set to simple Download is set at 70% Upload is set at 70% Speed test bypass is set to on. Should the R3 be active in the DMZ in my ISP Router? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no.way.mad.tha Posted February 26 Author Share Posted February 26 On 2/23/2024 at 7:36 PM, DanyKTM said: Go to geofilter, desactve steady ping and set your ping assist between 50-120, work fine with me, I dont know why, but if I put it on 0, it worst where is ping assist please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PharmDawgg Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 20 minutes ago, no.way.mad.tha said: where is ping assist please? Here is a screen recording on the app but you can get there as well on the desktop gui. RPReplay_Final1708950588.mp4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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