Speed test & Ping optimiser

[Spdsk8race]

On 2/1/2024 at 7:41 PM, mstutz2319 said:

What server does it use for speed testing? Mine doesn't work either; AT&T Fiber router in IP Passthrough mode.

@mstutz2319 is your att gateway box a bgw-210 or 5268ac? ATT gateways are terrible with their DMZ+/IP Passthrough. For the 5+ years I had ATT fiber(just moved to an area with Google fiber) I used the dumb switch bypass to take it out of the equation and I highly, HIGHLY recommend it. All you need it a gigabit Ethernet switch and it should only take 5-10 minutes. Link on how-to is here:

https://www.dslreports.com/forum/r32491796-bypass-att-pace-gateway

[mstutz2319]

On 2/2/2024 at 4:26 AM, Netduma Fraser said:

It uses measurementlabs, if the main server is down and the backups are down it won't work

So, I went to their website on my PC and can run a speed test just fine. The speeds are nowhere near what I pay for, but it works. It still does not work on my R3 though.

Why not use speedtest.net?

[mstutz2319]

3 hours ago, Spdsk8race said:

@mstutz2319 is your att gateway box a bgw-210 or 5268ac? ATT gateways are terrible with their DMZ+/IP Passthrough. For the 5+ years I had ATT fiber(just moved to an area with Google fiber) I used the dumb switch bypass to take it out of the equation and I highly, HIGHLY recommend it. All you need it a gigabit Ethernet switch and it should only take 5-10 minutes. Link on how-to is here:

https://www.dslreports.com/forum/r32491796-bypass-att-pace-gateway

Mine is a BGW-210. I've known about the dumb switch bypass, and I used to use it, but power outages just make it a pain. Maybe I can invest in a UPS system and keep my network equipment alive during power outages. Lol.

Anyway, the measurement labs speed test works fine from my PC, so why wouldn't it work fine from my R3?

[Netduma Fraser]

12 hours ago, mstutz2319 said:

So, I went to their website on my PC and can run a speed test just fine. The speeds are nowhere near what I pay for, but it works. It still does not work on my R3 though.

Why not use speedtest.net?

The site will work yes, it'll use a different server than what is provided for API purposes. Measurementlabs is cheaper than using ookla which is quite expensive

[mstutz2319]

1 hour ago, Netduma Fraser said:

The site will work yes, it'll use a different server than what is provided for API purposes. Measurementlabs is cheaper than using ookla which is quite expensive

Ah, okay. So does the API choose a server based on location? Or does it test with the same server every time?

[Netduma Fraser]

1 hour ago, mstutz2319 said:

Ah, okay. So does the API choose a server based on location? Or does it test with the same server every time?

I don't have all the technical details on it but from what I know have two addresses on the router for it, the main one and then a backup, if either of those aren't working for whatever reason, e.g. under heavy load, down for maintenance or they simply stop using that server etc then the feature wouldn't work. 

[mstutz2319]

3 hours ago, Netduma Fraser said:

I don't have all the technical details on it but from what I know have two addresses on the router for it, the main one and then a backup, if either of those aren't working for whatever reason, e.g. under heavy load, down for maintenance or they simply stop using that server etc then the feature wouldn't work. 

Right. So if I look in the R3's log, will it say what happened?

[mstutz2319]

11 minutes ago, mstutz2319 said:

Right. So if I look in the R3's log, will it say what happened?

Well, I ran another speed test, grabbed the log, and then the router crashed. Lol. Or at least I cannot access the web GUI anymore, but I still have an internet connection.

[Netduma Fraser]

1 hour ago, mstutz2319 said:

Right. So if I look in the R3's log, will it say what happened?

1 hour ago, mstutz2319 said:

Well, I ran another speed test, grabbed the log, and then the router crashed. Lol. Or at least I cannot access the web GUI anymore, but I still have an internet connection.

It won't necessarily say but might do. Did you have repeated failed tests by any chance? 

[mstutz2319]

5 hours ago, Netduma Fraser said:

It won't necessarily say but might do. Did you have repeated failed tests by any chance? 

I didn't attempt multiple tests in a row, but I have yet to complete a successful test. These lines in the log seem related to the speed test. Not sure though.

Sun Feb  4 15:51:05 2024 daemon.err cli.lua[4333]: fa=128000 pp=128000
Sun Feb  4 15:52:29 2024 user.info com.netdumasoftware.benchmark: Using smartqos: true
Sun Feb  4 15:53:03 2024 daemon.err cli.lua[4333]: Connect error: Connection timed out

[Michu89]

@Netduma Fraserany timingi when the team will fix internet speed for ppoe? Still i have a half from my 1gb

[Netduma Fraser]

5 hours ago, mstutz2319 said:

I didn't attempt multiple tests in a row, but I have yet to complete a successful test. These lines in the log seem related to the speed test. Not sure though.

Sun Feb  4 15:51:05 2024 daemon.err cli.lua[4333]: fa=128000 pp=128000
Sun Feb  4 15:52:29 2024 user.info com.netdumasoftware.benchmark: Using smartqos: true
Sun Feb  4 15:53:03 2024 daemon.err cli.lua[4333]: Connect error: Connection timed out

1 hour ago, Michu89 said:

@Netduma Fraserany timingi when the team will fix internet speed for ppoe? Still i have a half from my 1gb

Doesn't say much, just that it has timed out so that could be for any of the reasons I mentioned previously. We are aware of it so we'll improve it.

I don't have any ETAs on specific fixes, we'll do what we can to boost the speed.

[Damiano Calafiore]

i geofliltri non funzionano sempre correttamente 😅

[ddotangel]

okay thank you, ill do that

[TG3NOC1D3]

9 hours ago, Netduma Fraser said:

Doesn't say much, just that it has timed out so that could be for any of the reasons I mentioned previously. We are aware of it so we'll improve it.

I don't have any ETAs on specific fixes, we'll do what we can to boost the speed.

You guys could use the CMD line install, https://opensource.com/article/20/1/internet-speed-tests. Few options to do it but it would certainly help with the issues you guys are facing with it and ping optimizer. Idk how you would tie in latency for optimizer to see but code isn't my specialty lol. Making a command line backend for it to run or if the router is linux based, you can add in the iPerf capability for testing speed, it would even give the router the ability to test speed between router and device to find potential bad cables, switches or just device NIC bottlenecks. 

[Netduma Fraser]

33 minutes ago, TG3NOC1D3 said:

You guys could use the CMD line install, https://opensource.com/article/20/1/internet-speed-tests. Few options to do it but it would certainly help with the issues you guys are facing with it and ping optimizer. Idk how you would tie in latency for optimizer to see but code isn't my specialty lol. Making a command line backend for it to run or if the router is linux based, you can add in the iPerf capability for testing speed, it would even give the router the ability to test speed between router and device to find potential bad cables, switches or just device NIC bottlenecks. 

I suspect we'd get into a lot of trouble for bypassing their enterprise plans by using their service commercially! iPerf would be good for LAN but not for internet speeds

[TG3NOC1D3]

18 minutes ago, Netduma Fraser said:

I suspect we'd get into a lot of trouble for bypassing their enterprise plans by using their service commercially! iPerf would be good for LAN but not for internet speeds

Technically, if they open sourced the code to run it in a cmd line within a docker/container/pie, you could do the code and leave it to the user to enable to package. Hell, openwrt has the package code already setup as a service, you just have to download the pkg and it self installs running a script. So technically, you're not bypassing anything, you're just making the option available and then the end user is adding it to their router that they own. This would avoid litigation issues and you could "encourage" it being used to help with accurate speed testing and optimization of latency. I apologize, iPerf is a LAN tool, I used to run it alongside something else to get WAN added on. I haven't had much sleep since I finished moving late this weekend, speaking of, I will test that router real quick tonight so we can get moving on a swap if it doesn't work. 

[Netduma Fraser]

49 minutes ago, TG3NOC1D3 said:

Technically, if they open sourced the code to run it in a cmd line within a docker/container/pie, you could do the code and leave it to the user to enable to package. Hell, openwrt has the package code already setup as a service, you just have to download the pkg and it self installs running a script. So technically, you're not bypassing anything, you're just making the option available and then the end user is adding it to their router that they own. This would avoid litigation issues and you could "encourage" it being used to help with accurate speed testing and optimization of latency. I apologize, iPerf is a LAN tool, I used to run it alongside something else to get WAN added on. I haven't had much sleep since I finished moving late this weekend, speaking of, I will test that router real quick tonight so we can get moving on a swap if it doesn't work. 

You don't buy OpenWRT though so it's a little different, we will have made that option available, I don't think you could feasibly say well we didn't expect anyone to use it for example. Anyway, I think we'd want to keep everything above board, I have already spoken to the team about looking into other services.