Kevomeister011 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 I've had the R3 ever since it launched. Love the software....when it works. Ran great up until I installed the .23 firmware. I get constant packet loss on Xbox. I've changed all settings imaginable. IPV6 on/off(lan and wan), adblocker on/off, steady ping or no steady ping, DMZ, port forwarding, device prioritized or not, the list goes on. I've changed out my switch and ethernet cables. Changed to all LAN ports available on the R3. Nothing gets rid of the packet loss...unless I just take the the R3 out of the equation. As soon as I hook up my ASUS GT-AX6000 all packet loss issues go away. Another odd thing I've noticed with the IPV6 on R3 is my devices never receive an IPV6 address. Not sure what the issue is there. I've seen on here that the next update is supposed to eliminate the CPU issues so maybe these issues are resolved then. I might try and hook up the Asus for the wifi since its radios are better. Maybe it'll eliminate some strain on the R3 as well. Why is CC limited to 50%? I don't ever remember the R1 limiting that feature. iOrcus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted January 19 Administrators Share Posted January 19 Did you factory reset after doing the update? It's a few firmware versions in so it's what I would recommend at this stage. It could be the CPU issue but that was present before the .23 version. What is the model of the modem/router the R3 is connected to and how is that setup? CC % will likely be increased DOGGAVELI 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevomeister011 Posted January 19 Author Share Posted January 19 5 minutes ago, Netduma Fraser said: Did you factory reset after doing the update? It's a few firmware versions in so it's what I would recommend at this stage. It could be the CPU issue but that was present before the .23 version. What is the model of the modem/router the R3 is connected to and how is that setup? CC % will likely be increased I did factory reset. Fiber Sonic Adtran 411 ONT>R3. Every Ethernet cable is CAT7 double shielded. When I check out the CPU usage CPU 2 never goes below 70% and CPU 3 only ever goes up to 1% use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted January 19 Administrators Share Posted January 19 The packet loss, are you seeing it just in the console network test or in game as well? Could be the CPU issue then potentially DOGGAVELI 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vae Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 I ran into the same with .23. I'm Looking forward to the new update by the way. I turned off everything and just used the geofilter with MW3. I was getting 30-40ms to the nearest server which was reporting 23ms. In the last two weeks, packet burst and latency was worse. So I removed the R3 and used my old router. Now I am getting 17ms connections. I am not worried because I am fine waiting for the new update. I think I will roll back to .21 and wait things out. Just wanted to let you know I am seeing the same challenges as Kevomeister011. iOrcus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevomeister011 Posted January 19 Author Share Posted January 19 6 minutes ago, Netduma Fraser said: The packet loss, are you seeing it just in the console network test or in game as well? Could be the CPU issue then potentially Console test and in game. Just wanted to add there is packet loss on Cloudflares speedtest as well. Waveforms test only gets it occasionally. Running on other router sees no packet loss ever. I'm almost certain its a CPU bottleneck issue with the R3. Hopefully the next firmware fixes it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted January 19 Administrators Share Posted January 19 It very likely is that, we have seen the ping is higher/more unstable with it, that will come next week along with other fixes so should be a much smoother experience then Kevomeister011 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevomeister011 Posted January 19 Author Share Posted January 19 10 minutes ago, Netduma Fraser said: It very likely is that, we have seen the ping is higher/more unstable with it, that will come next week along with other fixes so should be a much smoother experience then Looking forward to it! Hopefully it resolves some major issues so the team can start focusing on other features and improvements. Netduma Fraser 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvndo Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 10 hours ago, Kevomeister011 said: I've had the R3 ever since it launched. Love the software....when it works. Ran great up until I installed the .23 firmware. I get constant packet loss on Xbox. I've changed all settings imaginable. IPV6 on/off(lan and wan), adblocker on/off, steady ping or no steady ping, DMZ, port forwarding, device prioritized or not, the list goes on. I've changed out my switch and ethernet cables. Changed to all LAN ports available on the R3. Nothing gets rid of the packet loss...unless I just take the the R3 out of the equation. As soon as I hook up my ASUS GT-AX6000 all packet loss issues go away. Another odd thing I've noticed with the IPV6 on R3 is my devices never receive an IPV6 address. Not sure what the issue is there. I've seen on here that the next update is supposed to eliminate the CPU issues so maybe these issues are resolved then. I might try and hook up the Asus for the wifi since its radios are better. Maybe it'll eliminate some strain on the R3 as well. Why is CC limited to 50%? I don't ever remember the R1 limiting that feature. Tell me more about this ASUS GT-AX6000 router. I have an xr500 and an xr1000 and swore I would never buy another netgear router after neither of them ran Duma OS very well and there were always problems. I took a chance that maybe the R3 would be a different experience as it was a netduma product running the duma OS..... and now as another person in this forum said, I have an expensive paper weight. Does the ASUS GT-AX6000 prioritize gaming traffic and why the heck did you buy the R3 paperweight in the first place?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevomeister011 Posted January 20 Author Share Posted January 20 3 hours ago, rvndo said: Tell me more about this ASUS GT-AX6000 router. I have an xr500 and an xr1000 and swore I would never buy another netgear router after neither of them ran Duma OS very well and there were always problems. I took a chance that maybe the R3 would be a different experience as it was a netduma product running the duma OS..... and now as another person in this forum said, I have an expensive paper weight. Does the ASUS GT-AX6000 prioritize gaming traffic and why the heck did you buy the R3 paperweight in the first place?!?! I’ve been a fan of what the people at Netduma started back with the R1. The GT does prioritize gaming traffic, but that part is built into the QoS. You can’t set device prioritizations. Other then that it’s an excellent piece of hardware. I’ve always loved the geo-filter the most with DumaOS. There’s a lot of “gaming” routers out there that have all these flashy words and this and that. What it really comes down to is the software. DumaOS is hands down the best router software for gaming. The CC and Geo-filter alone are more then what you get with any other router out there. I’ve always bought different routers to try out. It’s somewhat of a hobby to mess around with my internet setup. I’m more than confident the R3 will receive updates and it’ll be running smoothly. Might take a few firmwares to get there but it’ll be all good one day. It’s not a paperweight to me. Even though I’m having issues with it I’m still using it and trying out different settings/setups. The product just launched like a month ago. Give it some time and it’ll be way better! Fuzy and carmine19 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killhippie Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Honestly you have a great router in the Asus GT-AX6000 which is so much more powerful with more options that the R3 I have to be honest and just wonder why you in my view stepped down to a base level gaming router. That Asus router has far superior hardware with a 2Ghz CPU and twin 2.5G WAN/LAN ports and usb 2 and usb 3 ports and great software. You may be able to put Melin's software on it too which would give you even more options for things like QoS etc it honestly leaves the R3 in the dust, no offence to Netduma its just that the Asus has such good hardware and software. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzy Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 53 minutes ago, Killhippie said: Asus has such good hardware and software. Have you tested DumaOS 4 at least once before leaving such a comment...! For information, Asus' software for "geek" is called "Merlin"... (it was created in parallel by the developers, precisely to fill in the gaps in the basic FW... In version..." beta"...) Fairypusher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killhippie Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 1 hour ago, Fuzy said: Have you tested DumaOS 4 at least once before leaving such a comment...! For information, Asus' software for "geek" is called "Merlin"... (it was created in parallel by the developers, precisely to fill in the gaps in the basic FW... In version..." beta"...) Eric probably wont mind I spelt his name wrong. Asuswrt-Merlin is an alternative, customized version of that firmware. Developed by Eric Sauvageau, its goals were to enhance the existing firmware without major changes, and to fix any known issues, while keeping the performance the same as the original. Also Asus are always ahead because they release updates showing the CVE's in the firmware and as we know all routers need security updates, Asus had a few major ones last year like in September when they fixed three critical remote code execution vulnerabilities (CVE-2023-39238, CVE-2023-39239, CVE-2023-39240) in some of their routers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevomeister011 Posted January 20 Author Share Posted January 20 5 hours ago, Killhippie said: Honestly you have a great router in the Asus GT-AX6000 which is so much more powerful with more options that the R3 I have to be honest and just wonder why you in my view stepped down to a base level gaming router. That Asus router has far superior hardware with a 2Ghz CPU and twin 2.5G WAN/LAN ports and usb 2 and usb 3 ports and great software. You may be able to put Melin's software on it too which would give you even more options for things like QoS etc it honestly leaves the R3 in the dust, no offence to Netduma its just that the Asus has such good hardware and software. I’m not quite sure what you mean by more options. It features a limited qos and some ROG First junk. The dual 2.5 ports are ok when they are acting right. Plus only having gig speed doesn’t really take advantage of them. I’ve ran Asuswrt-Merlin on it ever since I’ve had it. On paper the GT is way better. In reality, when the R3 is running smoothly it performs better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvndo Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 8 hours ago, Kevomeister011 said: I’ve been a fan of what the people at Netduma started back with the R1. The GT does prioritize gaming traffic, but that part is built into the QoS. You can’t set device prioritizations. Other then that it’s an excellent piece of hardware. I’ve always loved the geo-filter the most with DumaOS. There’s a lot of “gaming” routers out there that have all these flashy words and this and that. What it really comes down to is the software. DumaOS is hands down the best router software for gaming. The CC and Geo-filter alone are more then what you get with any other router out there. I’ve always bought different routers to try out. It’s somewhat of a hobby to mess around with my internet setup. I’m more than confident the R3 will receive updates and it’ll be running smoothly. Might take a few firmwares to get there but it’ll be all good one day. It’s not a paperweight to me. Even though I’m having issues with it I’m still using it and trying out different settings/setups. The product just launched like a month ago. Give it some time and it’ll be way better! How are you satisfied with a company putting out extremely well produced youtube videos making claims about this R3 router and then when you buy it and it doesn't work you end up in a forum trying to trouble shoot it and no one will be honest and admit that it fell far short of what they claimed. If you went and bought a car and they claimed that it could go zero to 60 in 2 seconds but after purchasing it you found that it didn't even have a working transmission, what would you think? Would you say, "oh, just wait until their brilliant engineers come up with a working transmission and it will be great?" OR would you listen to the support staff who would say something like, "until we get a working transmission you can always get it up to speed quickly by dropping it out of a plane, there is nothing wrong with the car we sold you!!" This is ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvndo Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 the more I think about it though, being in this forum is like watching a tv show where the people in the show are so incompetent and yet so proud that they can't even see how bad they are. But in this forum you can interact, its better than TV!!! This might become my new hobby as well!! I honestly think the only thing that will cause me to loose interest is if they fixed the duma os software...... and anyone who has been waiting on that to happen for any length of time will know that we have years entertainment ahead of us. This upcoming episode could be titled v4.0.24 over-promise and underdeliver". I can hardly wait.. Renik 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevomeister011 Posted January 20 Author Share Posted January 20 3 hours ago, rvndo said: How are you satisfied with a company putting out extremely well produced youtube videos making claims about this R3 router and then when you buy it and it doesn't work you end up in a forum trying to trouble shoot it and no one will be honest and admit that it fell far short of what they claimed. If you went and bought a car and they claimed that it could go zero to 60 in 2 seconds but after purchasing it you found that it didn't even have a working transmission, what would you think? Would you say, "oh, just wait until their brilliant engineers come up with a working transmission and it will be great?" OR would you listen to the support staff who would say something like, "until we get a working transmission you can always get it up to speed quickly by dropping it out of a plane, there is nothing wrong with the car we sold you!!" This is ridiculous I never said I was satisfied at all. I think people fail to realize that there are a lot of bugs to work out of software running on any hardware. It’s not exactly an easy fix sometimes. I knew that it wasn’t going to be the greatest thing ever when I bought it. The software is brand new. It’s a complete overhaul of their previous ones. There are going to be issues. People just don’t have any patience these days. Then you get admins on here saying an update is on the way. Doesn’t come out cause they found another bug with it. People start complaining. It’s ridiculous. Would you rather they just launch an update to launch an update? I think the OP was taken a little out of context. I wasn’t poopyting on the device. I was posting on here to say “Hey, my poopy is doing this , and I think it’s this causing it”. Just wanted to inform. Maybe other people see the post and say “Hey mines doing the same poopy.” Then maybe it’s relayed to the team and they can look into it. I’ve never once owned a piece of tech that was flawless. Zippy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud R3 Owner Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Every new OS has its flaws. I don't think windows 10 was even stable until maybe a year after launch - and that was with user participation helping test and report issues. This isn't just a router that takes in internet and routes it through ethernet and wifi. If it were then I'm sure it would be easy for the team to just debug and give out security updates. As this is an enhanced piece of software with a multitude of features (that all have dependencies) it's a little more complex than that. That being said I have every feature enabled on my R3 including IPv6 on Wan/Lan, smartboost, steady-ping, etc. and it has been stable for days so far (as long as I keep it cooled on top of an old laptop pad). I have disabled WiFi due to having a larger home and land but I have 2 big TP-Link AX11000's in AP mode for coverage. Honestly, I think the CPU bug is overheating the unit and giving users issues. That being said I'm sure there are other smaller issues that they've found (as I'm not a dev) and instead of continuously hot fixing updates they've gone for just a later, larger update. Which is fine with me. On another note it would be nice maybe for "geeky" users to have maybe a nightly build of the firmware to test. It wouldn't be difficult to upload a file after compiling code for the day. Kevomeister011, Disrek and Zippy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOGGAVELI Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 9 hours ago, rvndo said: the more I think about it though, being in this forum is like watching a tv show where the people in the show are so incompetent and yet so proud that they can't even see how bad they are. But in this forum you can interact, its better than TV!!! This might become my new hobby as well!! I honestly think the only thing that will cause me to loose interest is if they fixed the duma os software...... and anyone who has been waiting on that to happen for any length of time will know that we have years entertainment ahead of us. This upcoming episode could be titled v4.0.24 over-promise and underdeliver". I can hardly wait.. I’ve owned an XR500, 700, 1000 and also a Netduma R1, 2 and also now the 3. I have always found the Netduma’s own routers run much more smoothly as opposed to Netgear. However this is my opinion only. I’ve found the whole Netduma team to be very honest and always helpful, and go above and beyond to help their customers. They even remote assist over the internet to help users where other companies will charge you crazy fees. They did this for me personally when I was having issues with my R2. They’re also still providing firmware for the Netduma 1 and 2 which they could be well within their right to say hey we no longer support this upgrade to the R3 yet they don’t. in regards to the firmware updates, they come out much quicker on Netduma routers compared to netgear. I was always frustrated with Netgear and how long they took to release firmware updates. Hence why recently Netgear Pro gaming is closing at the end of this month. I have other routers in my house and in my experience gaming has never been better on PC or Console than what it has been with the Netduma R3. Even with the current bugs included, new firmware will come out soon and I have no doubt it will addresses a lot of the bugs. I personally would rather wait for quality updates rather than smaller little updates regularly but once again this is my opinion only. Poor form bagging the forum too I check it regularly and always see Netduma staff and fellow forum members helping out others which you don’t really see in other forums. Kevomeister011, Zippy, Proud R3 Owner and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killhippie Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 On 1/20/2024 at 4:42 PM, Kevomeister011 said: I’m not quite sure what you mean by more options. It features a limited qos and some ROG First junk. The dual 2.5 ports are ok when they are acting right. Plus only having gig speed doesn’t really take advantage of them. I’ve ran Asuswrt-Merlin on it ever since I’ve had it. On paper the GT is way better. In reality, when the R3 is running smoothly it performs better. Which QoS were you using on Asuswrt-Merlin? Normally you have a choice of a few Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevomeister011 Posted February 10 Author Share Posted February 10 I’ve tried all of them. Traditional and Badwidth limiter worked the best. Bandwidth limiter was a little goofy sometimes. Adaptive was ok. I’ve even tried Cake that comes with Merlin. That one works best when you can edit values through amtm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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