Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted July 30, 2023 Administrators Share Posted July 30, 2023 You can try that version but it is just a security update essentially so I wouldn't have thought it would affect that functionality at all. I've added some steps to a section of the guide, try this, everything else will be the same so follow in order and just do these additional steps and see if that allows you to successfully TFTP: Following Guide 1 - 6 (7) Turn your router off for 10 seconds. - Hold the reset button (8) Turn your router back on. - Continue to hold the reset button (9) Wait for the Power LED to light orange and start flashing. - Release the reset button (10) When the Power LED is flashing, return to the Command Prompt app and press Enter to execute the tftp command and initiate the firmware upload. Following Guide 11+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ij4xs Posted July 31, 2023 Author Share Posted July 31, 2023 Thanks for that! I'll give it a go and let you know. Netduma Fraser 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ij4xs Posted July 31, 2023 Author Share Posted July 31, 2023 Well, there is definitely something in 1.0.0.68 that changed TFTP. I decided to use wireshark to get more information. I could get a TFTP started in 1.0.0.58 and 10.0.0.64 during the second window (I'll explain what I mean by that in a bit) but it never was long enough. Whereas in that same window and afterwards in 10.0.0.68 I would get a ICMP "Destination Unreachable (Port Unreachable)" packet from the router. If anyone wants to see the packet captures I can upload them somewhere. I'll try to explain the "second window" thing here. So following the steps to get the power light to flash I have these observations: 1. Router has been off more than 10 seconds and reset button is held in. 2. Power on. 3. Light turns white briefly, then solid red, then flashes red. I let go of reset here (it didn't matter if I held it longer, the router acted the same after this point). 4. Right as the power light stops flashing red and goes solid red the ethernet port turns on and return ping has a TTL of 100. This is what I call the first window. This lasts for about 2 seconds and TFTP doesn't seem to be available yet. 5. Ethernet connectivity drops for a couple seconds and when it comes back return ping has a TTL of 64. This is the second window. After a second or so of this connection being established TFTP is open and I can start a put command. However, this window never lasts longer than about a minute and the upload is always cut short. 6. Ethernet connectivity drops once more for the last time and when it comes back the router also turns up WiFi and the power light turns white. I've actually found a third window here and currently have a TFTP upload running, however it's been running for at least 30 minutes at about 8kbps. I'll let this upload run until it finishes or times out or I hear back on here to do something different. If someone wants to see a wireshark of the third window I can cut it down to just the first few minutes as I've still got it capturing so that I can watch the TFTP upload. As an aside, it seems that the xr1000 doesn't do anything different for TFTP on pre-boot with reset held, but the light flashing helps a small bit for timing. And being honest, watching the ethernet port connectivity light is more useful than the power light for knowing when the TFTP should be open. It's kinda crazy where this has gotten to! 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted July 31, 2023 Administrators Share Posted July 31, 2023 Ugh that is frustrating! Unlikely to be able to TFTP it then, it doesn't seem like we're going to be able to get port forwarding working consistently but there are other solutions - what are you needing the port forwarding for exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ij4xs Posted July 31, 2023 Author Share Posted July 31, 2023 I host a VPN to home as well as game servers. Should also note that is across multiple computers so using the DMZ wouldn't work unless I consolidate all the services. Which would be kinda hard as some are linux and others are windows. I will say that "fully booted" xr1000 TFTP upload is still running! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted July 31, 2023 Administrators Share Posted July 31, 2023 Okay so setting NAT to Open in WAN Settings may work but if not, you could try Port Triggering instead, it's just like port forwarding but may work more consistently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ij4xs Posted July 31, 2023 Author Share Posted July 31, 2023 NAT to open is my usual, but my standalone game servers don't use UPnP. I'll give port triggering a try, though isn't triggering available for any computer and app? I might end up fighting auto game servers or other LAN hosted services, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted July 31, 2023 Administrators Share Posted July 31, 2023 33 minutes ago, ij4xs said: NAT to open is my usual, but my standalone game servers don't use UPnP. I'll give port triggering a try, though isn't triggering available for any computer and app? I might end up fighting auto game servers or other LAN hosted services, right? You have the capability to pick between: Any (the default) allows any computer on the Internet to use this service. Single address restricts the service to a particular computer. so that should allow you to get it working for the VPN/Game servers and NAT Type Open should take care of anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ij4xs Posted July 31, 2023 Author Share Posted July 31, 2023 Thanks! Once this TFTP either crashes or finishes I'll give it a try! Netduma Fraser 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ij4xs Posted February 8 Author Share Posted February 8 I still need to give port triggering a try, but I've had the router fail on port forwards after updating LAN DHCP settings a few times now. Does there happen to be a firmware update down the line still for the xr1000 and will the fix for this be in that update? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted February 8 Administrators Share Posted February 8 15 minutes ago, ij4xs said: I still need to give port triggering a try, but I've had the router fail on port forwards after updating LAN DHCP settings a few times now. Does there happen to be a firmware update down the line still for the xr1000 and will the fix for this be in that update? You changed the LAN IP? If so then yes you'd need to redo them as they'd use the old one. There will be an update yes but I don't know how much NG will be contributing to it to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ij4xs Posted February 8 Author Share Posted February 8 Ah, no, not the LAN IP, the subnet stayed the same. I only changed the LAN DHCP range and DHCP on to off. Well, I might not hold on hope for the xr1000 then. That's unfortunate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted February 8 Administrators Share Posted February 8 Interesting, shouldn't have affected it at all then I wouldn't have thought. Give the devices static/reserved IPs and it may prevent it happening in future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behringer-93 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Hello anyway I will have more updates from Netgear why not provide the Beta version of the XR1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ij4xs Posted February 8 Author Share Posted February 8 1 hour ago, Netduma Fraser said: Interesting, shouldn't have affected it at all then I wouldn't have thought. Give the devices static/reserved IPs and it may prevent it happening in future. My servers are actually static assigned IP addresses. This has been a consistent bug where port forwards will stop functioning after WAN/Internet DNS or LAN settings are changed. It's what I've been logging in this thread for a while now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted February 8 Administrators Share Posted February 8 1 hour ago, Behringer-93 said: Hello anyway I will have more updates from Netgear why not provide the Beta version of the XR1000 We're waiting on a build from NG 28 minutes ago, ij4xs said: My servers are actually static assigned IP addresses. This has been a consistent bug where port forwards will stop functioning after WAN/Internet DNS or LAN settings are changed. It's what I've been logging in this thread for a while now. I don't know that it will be fixed by NG to be honest, there have been a couple of things we've chased them on for a long while ij4xs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryekye Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 2 hours ago, Netduma Fraser said: We're waiting on a build from NG I don't know that it will be fixed by NG to be honest, there have been a couple of things we've chased them on for a long while Glad I bought my r3 while waiting on xr1000 beta the r3 does pretty good so far gotta experiment with it more if you guys ever do beta testing let me know I'll gladly join the r3 beta testing! Netduma Fraser 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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