High ping caused by netflix

[Dantrio]

Hi

 

Trying to work out if this is going to help me. My internet connection is around 15Mbps down and 4Mbps up so pretty poor and unfortunately not going to improve any time soon. 

 

Ping in games usually sits around the 30-50 mark depending on what game im playing (usually either dota, smite and now some pubg). Problem is when somebody else wants to watch netflix on a smart tv ping generally fluctuates anywhere between about 120 and 220 so is not only alot higher but wont sit at any kind of stable number. 

 

The simple QOS functions on my netgear nighthawk router have not helped to fix this in any way, so my question is with the QOS functions on this router, hyper traffic and anti flood functions, will this help reduce the effect on games that somebody watching netflix will have. Im not expecting it to magically make it so that there is no effect at all but is this going to help the situation.

 

Any info would be great thanks

 

 

[iAmMoDBoX]

Im not expecting it to magically make it so that there is no effect at all

 

If you connect it right, and set it up correctly then it will magically make it so that there is no effect. While uploading/downloading my ping only increases about 10ms which you wouldn't even notice while playing a game.

 

First, what modem do you have? Is it an all in one with wifi? Gotta make sure all your devices are connecting through the Netduma so it can manage your bandwidth properly.

 

As for your slow speeds, the Netduma actually works better with slower speeds. So you'll have better results than I do with 240 down lol.

 

Any other questions?

[Dantrio]

vdsl modem is built In to router but would probably use bt supplied smarthub in modem mode, connect to netduma and then use Netgear as an AP.

[iAmMoDBoX]

vdsl modem is built In to router but would probably use bt supplied smarthub in modem mode, connect to netduma and then use Netgear as an AP.

 

I'm not an expert in BT, but lots of other users here are and could help you getting it setup properly. As you said, put the modem into modem mode which disables any routing capabilities so your Netduma can handle all the devices and stop any chance of lag while gaming. With those speeds using the Netgear for an AP is kinda overkill as the Netduma wifi will do just fine. But if you need 5ghz then sure you can use the Netgear

[ColonicBoom]

vdsl modem is built In to router but would probably use bt supplied smarthub in modem mode, connect to netduma and then use Netgear as an AP.

 

Like MoDBoX says, you'll be surprised by the level at which the Netduma will suppress your lag spikes.

If you're seeing 100-200ms spikes from Netflix then you'll see a significant improvement.

I'm not with BT but there are plenty of people on here that are, some of the other mods have BT too.

 

BT home hub > Netduma > Nighthawk (AP)

This setup will work fine, it's more or less what I'm running now.

I only have 25/5 with TalkTalk so you're probably a similar distance from your cab.

 

And I'd always recommend ditching the ISP provided all-in-one unit for a standalone modem.

[Netduma Fraser]

Hey, welcome to the forum!

 

You've got some good advice so far. I would just reiterate that went setup correctly it will definitely help with the situation you described and prevent you lagging when someone goes on Netflix.

[Dantrio]

Hey

 

Thanks all for the advise, very helpful.

 

Last question really, when setup correctly this should reduce the impact on gaming which is great, not to worried about no impact reduced down to a manageable level is great. Will this affect the people trying to watch netflix by limiting the bandwidth and reducing quality or causing buffering, or will the features on the router re-order the traffic so that more gaming oriented packets aren't queued behind netflix and other downloads? Just trying to get an idea of how this works.

[mountainping]

If you connect it right, and set it up correctly then it will magically make it so that there is no effect. While uploading/downloading my ping only increases about 10ms which you wouldn't even notice while playing a game.

 

First, what modem do you have? Is it an all in one with wifi? Gotta make sure all your devices are connecting through the Netduma so it can manage your bandwidth properly.

 

As for your slow speeds, the Netduma actually works better with slower speeds. So you'll have better results than I do with 240 down lol.

 

Any other questions?

i DO notice when my ping fluctuates about 10 ms(especially when playing on a monitor).. the hit registration changes. may not notice it but you Will "feel" it. shots don't connect as smoothly. 

 

try the congestion control and see if that improves your ping fluctuation while using netflix

 

cheers

[iAmMoDBoX]

Hey

 

Thanks all for the advise, very helpful.

 

Last question really, when setup correctly this should reduce the impact on gaming which is great, not to worried about no impact reduced down to a manageable level is great. Will this affect the people trying to watch netflix by limiting the bandwidth and reducing quality or causing buffering, or will the features on the router re-order the traffic so that more gaming oriented packets aren't queued behind netflix and other downloads? Just trying to get an idea of how this works.

 

Nope, other people would have no idea what is going on. What you're doing is basically creating a buffer so your internet line doesn't become saturated which will cause packet queues aka bufferbloat.

[Netduma Fraser]

Hey

 

Thanks all for the advise, very helpful.

 

Last question really, when setup correctly this should reduce the impact on gaming which is great, not to worried about no impact reduced down to a manageable level is great. Will this affect the people trying to watch netflix by limiting the bandwidth and reducing quality or causing buffering, or will the features on the router re-order the traffic so that more gaming oriented packets aren't queued behind netflix and other downloads? Just trying to get an idea of how this works.

 

As MoD says. When it's working correctly you shouldn't even know when Netflix is being watched or not. They wouldn't notice a difference either, they shouldn't get any buffering. If you use hyper traffic specifically as well then your game will always be the number 1 priority on your network.