Administrators Netduma Iain Posted May 28, 2015 Administrators Share Posted May 28, 2015 Akic you're right, if they have it in modem mode or in the DMZ then its not safe. Ford crossy is absolutely correct, can you try both his suggestions please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share Posted May 28, 2015 Will do guys. I'll try to get that today before you folks get to bed Thanks for all the help btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Iain Posted May 28, 2015 Administrators Share Posted May 28, 2015 cheers buddy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford Posted May 29, 2015 Author Share Posted May 29, 2015 Guys, I cannot get off a moderate NAT. I've disabled Upnp, rebooted, tested, then enabled, rebooted, then tested, all the while disabling the geo, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netduma Staff Netduma Crossy Posted May 29, 2015 Netduma Staff Share Posted May 29, 2015 Guys, I cannot get off a moderate NAT. I've disabled Upnp, rebooted, tested, then enabled, rebooted, then tested, all the while disabling the geo, etc. Is the correct address in the DMZ of your other router? Have you also disable all port forwarding on your other router. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford Posted May 29, 2015 Author Share Posted May 29, 2015 Yes, correct address in other router and no port forwarding, just upnp on both routers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netduma Staff Netduma Crossy Posted May 29, 2015 Netduma Staff Share Posted May 29, 2015 Have you also restarted the console that you are testing on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford Posted May 29, 2015 Author Share Posted May 29, 2015 Many, many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zennon Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Turned off the console , rebooted the Netduma then waited 40 sec's then booted the console? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford Posted May 29, 2015 Author Share Posted May 29, 2015 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zennon Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Have you tried taking the duma out of your first router's DMZ with no port forward rules and in the netduma ticking Enable upnp forwarding. in misc settings? Turning off the console and rebooting the duma 40 secs then console back on . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RADDY1993 Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Modems do have firewalls as my Huawei did, turn of the firewall in modem and main router then you will get open Nat. Even if the duma is in the main routers DMZ an enabled firewall can still cause Nat problems as i tested this when i had my Asus, also having no firewall is not an issue as im sure you have Antiviruses and firewalls on your devices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zennon Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Modems do have firewalls as my Huawei did, turn of the firewall in modem and main router then you will get open Nat. Even if the duma is in the main routers DMZ an enabled firewall can still cause Nat problems as i tested this when i had my Asus, also having no firewall is not an issue as im sure you have Antiviruses and firewalls on your devices. I personaly would not recommend turning off your modems or routers firewall Raddy but each to their own . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Iain Posted May 29, 2015 Administrators Share Posted May 29, 2015 Hi ford, don't forget to disable your geo-filter. Does that fix it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford Posted May 29, 2015 Author Share Posted May 29, 2015 I'm not going to disable my firewall. Yes, I have tested with geo off. I need my R1 behind my TP-Link so I can control bandwidth more precisely. Even though I have business class internet with plenty of up and dwn speeds, I have a huge problem with lag comp, so in combination with geo and throttling, I could use all the help I can get. I didn't get a moderate NAT until I placed the R1 behind the router. There is a gentleman named Sim on YouTube that has this same setup, so I know it can be done successfully, but my networking skills only go so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zennon Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 In my experience and testing lag comp is judged by distance from each other (ping) not how much bandwidth you have, that is a common myth. Gaming need's very little bandwidth and if you have more than enough it does not send anymore or any less packets than somebody on a smaller bandwidth product. They will get there at different times yes but only due to ping to host that is were lag comp puts you on what should be an even footing, it does the best it can. Using a Netduma will cut down your ping time to host resulting in much better games, i play mw, mw2 bops 1&2 and battlefield and the duma is a revelation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Iain Posted May 29, 2015 Administrators Share Posted May 29, 2015 Hi mate, please follow the instructions here carefully: http://wiki.netduma.com/doku.php?id=how_do_i_open_my_nat That is the only way to open NAT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford Posted May 30, 2015 Author Share Posted May 30, 2015 Well, I'm at a loss. I have followed those directions explicitly to no avail. I still have a moderate NAT in game and a strict NAT at network testing. I've hard reset the R1 after turning off Upnp, having it on, rebooting the console, limiting bandwidth, not limiting bandwidth, keeping geo filter off during each test, etc. This NAT will not open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akic Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 In a situation like this when auto setup (upnp) isn't working I personally would switch to manual and configure everything by hand. So static ip for the console upnp off and set up port forwarding rules on the r1 which should already be in the tp link's DMZ Also, if your modem has a firewall you'll need to let the packets through there too so port forwarding there too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Iain Posted May 30, 2015 Administrators Share Posted May 30, 2015 Hi Ford, Honestly if you follow those instructions in that thread you will get an open NAT. You don't need to touch bandwidth or anything. You need the following: UPnP enabled on the Netduma The Netduma WAN IP put into the DMZ of the upstream router Once you do that restart the xbox and you should have an open NAT. If not then the DMZ is not working on the other router. We can try port forwarding everything, but confirm the default method doesn't work first please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford Posted June 1, 2015 Author Share Posted June 1, 2015 Iain, I have verified that the DMZ IP is the same on both routers, indicating that it is working. Upnp is on for both, etc., etc. I finally had to take the R1 and connect it directly to the ISP modem/router to get an open NAT. I also had Sim from YouTube, someone who has published very detailed setups for your router config under a TP-Link and neither of us could get the NAT open when the R1 was behind the TP-Link. Believe me, I wish I could say it was something simple that I've missed, but I can't find it based on your instructions. You're more than welcome to come on board my system one of these days and inspect for yourself if you have the time, but for now, I'll just keep me R1 separate from my TP so I can keep my open NAT. Let me know. Josh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Iain Posted June 1, 2015 Administrators Share Posted June 1, 2015 Hey Josh, I'm very busy this week but can help out next week if you do'nt mind. Also a new update in a few weeks will have finer traffic shaping to help you out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford Posted June 1, 2015 Author Share Posted June 1, 2015 Great, thanks. Just let me know what times are good for you since we'll need to plan carefully given our time zones. I own a business, so need to be sure we both get an open slot that works for both of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Iain Posted June 1, 2015 Administrators Share Posted June 1, 2015 Thanks mate, well I guess 6-7pm GMT is the latest I really want to do at the moment. Although hopefully if I have Internet at home I can do after Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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