Possible Issues with Modem

[iantel]

Hello Netduma Family,

 

This is my first post but I have read hundreds of posts by now. I want to thank everyone and the Netduma staff for being so awesome and making this beast of a machine.

 

I play Call of Duty competitively (Gamebattles / UMG tournaments and wager matches) on the PS4 exclusively. I do play StarCraft 2 on PC, but have no concerns about that. Anyway, I just bought a CM600 modem today after reading about the bugs associated with my previous modem, the Arris 6183. I have Cox Communications cable's ultimate package (300 down, 30 up). I do NOT care about download speeds or surfing the net or anything like that. My only desire is to have the lowest possible ping, even if that means sacrificing my internet speeds. Currently, I'm using:

 

Preemptive

60% CC for both up and down

Hyperlane for PS4 on PlayStation Network

UPnP checked

Port forwarding UDP 3074 for open NAT type on CoD

Turbo mode NOT checked (obviously Super also not checked)

Multicast snooping enabled

Deep packet NOT checked

 

When I run dslreports I notice spikes during download and upload but get A's across the board (not A+), besides speed which always has a dash.

Speedtest.net shows about 7-8 ms ping, 45-50 down, 20 up on my Alienware Area-51 (don't stone me for using Alienware).

Pingtest.net shows 15 ms with 1-2 ms jitter (Netduma tool gives me exceptional on ping test for all and no jitter)

 

I have tried Reactive and every CC setup I could think of. I have tried Turbo mode.

 

Anyway, what do you guys think (especially Fraser) about the settings I should use to prioritize ping above all? Do I need a different modem, because I believe that the Netgear CM600 uses the same Broadcom chipset that the Arris 6183 uses (I don't know if it has EEE or not). Additionally, when I received my Netduma from Amazon, it had scratches on the top (which I don't care about but I'm concerned that maybe it was a return because it wasn't working properly).

 

Thank you all again for being such an awesome community. I'm truly appreciative and have been making my family and friends get this router.

 

 

Many thanks,

 

Ian

[Slipknot31286sic6]

Ping is from server to server. If u are basing this for cod. You are doing it all wrong as Google.com, Twitter, whatever place you ping won't matter. The server you ping is what matters.

I'd use reactive with turbo mode, 70.70 cc. I personally use 98/98, get A+. No issues.

But pinging Google or whatever and saying u get 5 ms or 50ms doesn't mean anything. Hope you understand that.

Opening bo3, clicking on server in geo filter, pinging server. Is actual ping. For me usually 20 ms or less on Chicago server.

[iantel]

Thank you for the quick reply, Slipknot. Since the majority of my games are competitively private matches, I play on player hosts or my host almost exclusively. When using GeoFilter on a public match, I limit it to 350 miles and connect to the closest server which is Dallas. I'm in Oklahoma City. My ping fluctuates but averages 33 ms to this dedicated server.

 

Does turbo mode just allow for speeds over ~120 Mbps down without affecting ping? My understanding from previous posts is that preemptive prioritizes ping while reactive prioritizes download/upload speed. As I do not care about down/up speed, I chose to play with preemptive. I'm wondering if this correlates with Turbo Mode or not. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

[Slipknot31286sic6]

Turbo allows up to 300, super turbo allows over 300 but disables cc. By doing this with cc at 100, you will get bad buffer bloat. I'd enable turbo and play with cc if u wanna get best speed. 70-70 guaranteed A+ buffer bloat if u wanna set n forget.

Ping won't be affected if u go 70 or 50 or 90. Ping is you to server. If u play on only Dallas, Dallas is 33 ping. Ping should always always be same. As is for me when I play only Chicago.

If I play on Atlanta, ping is 50 always.

This is if I'm host of party or by myself. If u join a party and not host you will have ping based off server connecting to and netduma Will NOT WORK!

As it is supposed to.

 

 

My experience playing on preemptive is like 5 second delay and a nightmare. I run n gun 2.31kd Lvl 1000 371 spm hc tdm. Dark matter as well, 120k kills. So I Know difference in play instantly.

[iantel]

Thanks boss. I appreciate the info. I have about a 2.something K/D but I've never prestiged. I have 10 or so flawless FFA's though. My gamertag is iiantel. Add me if you want.

 

Anyway, if I play on someone's private match host (like during a GB match 3v3 or something), then Black Ops 3 servers still affect our game? Is it connecting to a server first and then the player host or is it connecting directly to the private match host? I always thought the later. Additionally, I'm not able to connect to a player host if I enable GeoFilter range for a small area and they happen to be outside the bubble (say on the East coast or something).

 

My biggest question is if I should use another modem. As there were known issues with the Arris sb6183 (some problem with the Broadcom chipset and Ethernet Energy Efficiency), I'm afraid that my new modem, the Netgear CM600 (which potentially uses the same or similar Broadcom chipset, EEE uknown) is actually hurting my connection.

 

I will set it to reactive and start with 100/100 and work down by steps of 2 Mbps until I get an A+ across the board on dslreports. I will check Turbo Mode as well.

 

Currently, I have reset the download/upload priority, so everything is equally distributed. I have about 10-15 devices on that list. Everything gets about 6%. Should I raise the PS4 priority? Also, is the Hyperlane for PS4 on Playstation Network good enough? Should I add an extra Hyperlane for UDP 3074, since that is what BO3 primarily connects through? It is okay to have two Hyperlanes or do they clash, especially since the Playstation Network setting includes 3074 anyway.

 

I use CAT6A cables (1 foot between router/modem and 3 foot to PS4). I have a BenQ 24 console monitor, Astro A40 TR's, Scuf Infinity 4PS, so I know it's none of the other equipment. My PS4 is set to Full Color RGB, Deep Color Auto. On monitor I have RTS1 set with black equalizer at 20, and AMA set on High. Audio is set for High Boost and brightness all the way up pretty much.

 

Thanks in advance.

[Slipknot31286sic6]

I have tp link tc 7620 I personally noticed night n day buffer bloat difference from Sb 6121. Only moving 2 percent vs 80/80 when I had motorola. I want set n forget not lose speed.

I've heard of gb, but thought that was player hosted? If there is an official server then and say party of 4. U must be host of party to benefit netduma, of course this still depends on distance of server.

Hyperlane I do playstation network and then separate source 3074 udp so 2 things in hyperlane . . Geo filter plain PS network.

I leave priority alone, no problems running 3 iptv at once.

 

I've seen quite a few posts with twc 300meg issues and netduma. Search forum. So far no fix I've seen. They tried Motorola, cm600 and tc 7620. Still issues

[iantel]

Thanks. That info is very helpful. I'm going to return the CM600 and buy the TP link today

 

Check out Gamebattles. Competitive scene is so much more fun than pubs. Feel free to message me on PS4 and you can run on my team. You'll get hooked immediately. GB is player hosted.

 

On the Hyperlane for UDP 3074, do you select both or just source?

[Slipknot31286sic6]

Just source. Whether this makes u better or not or a difference. Still not 100% sure but quite a few guys who are good on here as well Swear by it.

[Netduma Fraser]

I would recommend:

 

Reactive

70/70 anti-flood

UPnP or port forwarding not both

UPnP forwarding disabled in misc
Turbo mode can be enabled
Multicast can be disabled

Hyper traffic should just be PSN, it includes that port so no need to do a separate rule for that as well

I wouldn't worry about bufferbloat. As Zennon has said before BB is only an issue when your connection is saturated and at 70% that won't happen

[iantel]

Thank you for your response. Everything works great now. I really appreciate everything. I just have one more question. Does CC at 70% vs 90% yield different latency / ping times?

[Netduma Jack]

Higher CC could potentially give you problems when gaming, since it'd allow all of your devices to push the bandwidth to the max. We've always recommended 70%; since after lots of testing it's proved to give the best latency / ping results. With that in mind though, feel free to play around with the settings; but 70% will give you the best gaming experience.

 

Glad to hear it's working well

[Slipknot31286sic6]

Mines at 60/90 cc. Gives me 20 ms ping with 3 ms buffer bloat across board. Best I could get. When I did the 70/70 I couldn't believe I still had bad buffer bloat. I have 180/25 so I guess I had to throttle more. Remember don't move sliders together as this can buffer bloat up or down. U want buffer bloat to be same on both streams. Takes tweaking but we'll worth it. Increases hit detection like u wouldn't believe. Helped a lot in IW. Definitely less hit markers on hc tdm BO3

[iantel]

Thanks for the response guys. Question - if 70/70 was best during the tests, would more congestion be worse (e.g. 60/60). I remember seeing a post by Fraser once who recommended to someone with high speeds similar to mine (300 down / 30 up) that 60/60 might be good. What do you guys think about this? Would even more congestion (even down to 10 percent) be beneficial if I don't need the speed?

 

Additionally, are there other things that I can do to help my ping?

[Netduma Fraser]

I would still recommend 70/70. What you're referring to is throttling which I believe to be a placebo effect. However, it's all about what works best for you so you could experiment with it. 

 

Put the console in hyper traffic and use the Geo-filter of course.