Baturi Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 i dont understand why i get big spikes upto 50ms at times especially when my QOS is set up properly i also have enough range of CPU Left like this spike happened when watching 8K Video... and also happens when gaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baturi Posted July 12, 2023 Author Share Posted July 12, 2023 whilst playing a game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baturi Posted July 12, 2023 Author Share Posted July 12, 2023 even more worse when updating cod with qos on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKNESS Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 I believe it because you have the interval set to 1 second your not going to get accurate data like that I forget the reason why that is though it might just be router hardware etc so just set it 2.5 and you should be able to see more accurately what happening Also that just the gateway your not going to get much from that if your testing qos settings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted July 13, 2023 Administrators Share Posted July 13, 2023 It's worse on the last photos as the interval has been set to 1 as above. Other than that can you provide a screenshot of your QoS page please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baturi Posted July 14, 2023 Author Share Posted July 14, 2023 17 hours ago, Netduma Fraser said: It's worse on the last photos as the interval has been set to 1 as above. Other than that can you provide a screenshot of your QoS page please? that good? and regardless of 1 second intervals it will still behave the same at 2.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted July 14, 2023 Administrators Share Posted July 14, 2023 You're not using QoS, it's set to Never, that's why you're getting those spikes when watching videos etc. You'll want to set it to Always and perhaps raise the download percentage as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baturi Posted July 16, 2023 Author Share Posted July 16, 2023 On 7/15/2023 at 12:11 AM, Netduma Fraser said: You're not using QoS, it's set to Never, that's why you're getting those spikes when watching videos etc. You'll want to set it to Always and perhaps raise the download percentage as well. oh i took a photo just for the sake of it lmfao and yeah i am aware i always have qos on always it still does though like put it to this way even when capped at 50mbps still spikes even for demonware.net (cod server) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted July 16, 2023 Administrators Share Posted July 16, 2023 Can you provide a screenshot of a completed Connection Benchmark test please? You can't traditionally ping the CoD servers, it will end in packet loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKNESS Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 @Netduma FraserHave you run a test just from your modem? This might be ISP related issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted July 16, 2023 Administrators Share Posted July 16, 2023 6 hours ago, DARKNESS said: @Netduma FraserHave you run a test just from your modem? This might be ISP related issue Are you referring to pinging CoD servers? It's not an ISP issue, they just don't respond to traditional pings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKNESS Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Netduma Fraser said: Are you referring to pinging CoD servers? It's not an ISP issue, they just don't respond to traditional pings. No I was referring to the gateway since depending on the circumstances packet loss can also show up in hop 1 if that was the case through the router gateway....I know this since I in the past had to deal with them and it was painful to be honest not something I like to do when half of them don't even know any networking and might have to escalate the situation to the fcc if it goes that far... Netduma Fraser 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baturi Posted July 17, 2023 Author Share Posted July 17, 2023 4 hours ago, DARKNESS said: No I was referring to the gateway since depending on the circumstances packet loss can also show up in hop 1 if that was the case through the router gateway....I know this since I in the past had to deal with them and it was painful to be honest not something I like to do when half of them don't even know any networking and might have to escalate the situation to the fcc if it goes that far... this is true indeed hop 1 has shown packet loss for me and still does but whats very odd is as soon as i individually ping the targrt (hop 1) the packet loss is nonexistent so (maybe a bug on ping plotter?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baturi Posted July 17, 2023 Author Share Posted July 17, 2023 14 hours ago, Netduma Fraser said: Can you provide a screenshot of a completed Connection Benchmark test please? You can't traditionally ping the CoD servers, it will end in packet loss. 1st test no qos 2nd test qos on whats so weird is connection benchmark is behaving weirdly? i mean on wave form its not even like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKNESS Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, Baturi said: this is true indeed hop 1 has shown packet loss for me and still does but whats very odd is as soon as i individually ping the targrt (hop 1) the packet loss is nonexistent so (maybe a bug on ping plotter?) Ping google and see what going on from there you should be able to see your modem gateway and if packet loss is coming from that area it most likely ISP issue that your going to have to tackle....I would preferably connect straight to modem with a laptop and do it like that since ISP will ask for proof I am also primarily referring to visits not useless customer service people that get you nowhere rebooting your modem like if that fixing a thing 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKNESS Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 @BaturiI wouldn't count too much upon the connection benchmark they're not always accurate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baturi Posted July 17, 2023 Author Share Posted July 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, DARKNESS said: @BaturiI wouldn't count too much upon the connection benchmark they're not always accurate well yeah i never do i rely on waveform or watching 8k videos with qos to determine ping spikes etc or even downloading a game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKNESS Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 @BaturiBest method is ping plotter though that takes experience and for the most part isn't necessary as you can test it using ookla or waveform if they're accurate in your area etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKNESS Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 @BaturiI would suggest lowering the Upload to 50% since that really what affects gaming and you seem to have plenty so it shouldn't be much of an issue 20 up is more than enough for most users unless you have a big household etc Also test it yourself and manually set it up as ping optimizer isn't accurate as well which I see too many user rely upon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baturi Posted July 17, 2023 Author Share Posted July 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, DARKNESS said: @BaturiI would suggest lowering the Upload to 50% since that really what affects gaming and you seem to have plenty so it shouldn't be much of an issue 20 up is more than enough for most users unless you have a big household etc Also test it yourself and manually set it up as ping optimizer isn't accurate as well which I see too many user rely upon never used ping optimiser i do qos setting myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKNESS Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 @BaturiHow your traffic prioritization rules set? Screenshot would be better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baturi Posted July 17, 2023 Author Share Posted July 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, DARKNESS said: @BaturiHow your traffic prioritization rules set? Screenshot would be better basic shit either dumaos classified or manual cod series or manual 3074/3074 30000/45000 method i main os classified more though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKNESS Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Baturi said: basic shit either dumaos classified or manual cod series or manual 3074/3074 30000/45000 method i main os classified more though Your on PC I would guess then yeah that works fine for the most part I ain't tested PC myself since I am console exclusive currently but from what Ive seen it better for PC users to add they're own rules though not necessary especially with the new smart qos feature coming though it available on beta if you want to test it though it not perfect it still being worked upon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baturi Posted July 17, 2023 Author Share Posted July 17, 2023 16 minutes ago, DARKNESS said: Your on PC I would guess then yeah that works fine for the most part I ain't tested PC myself since I am console exclusive currently but from what Ive seen it better for PC users to add they're own rules though not necessary especially with the new smart qos feature coming though it available on beta if you want to test it though it not perfect it still being worked upon already tested it i like alot but i stay on main build until new one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted July 17, 2023 Administrators Share Posted July 17, 2023 Ping Under Load at that rating would indicate that QoS needs to be fine tuned some more. It's best to start with a high value for Congestion Control, say 95% then do a test, decrease by 10%, test, decrease by 10% etc, until you get to a value that is pretty good and then try 5% either side of that value to see if it can be improved. It's important to note that Download & Upload on Congestion Control don't have to be the same value and that you may have a better experience with differing values. Baturi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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