Jaawwws Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Hey there, I have some specific questions regarding Congestion Control and how it impacts other users on my network. I live in a busy household with many connected devices and I'm wondering how the use of CC (both Anti-Flood and Prioritisation) affects the speed that other users on the network can achieve. See the bottom of this post for my setup specs. Say for example, we have two PS4's added to the Hyper Lane. I set my CC to 90%. As I understand it, the total network bandwidth is capped at 90%, therefore there is always 10% reserved for use by Hyper Lane traffic - avoiding congestion. Have I understood this correctly? Secondly, if the above is correct. After adjusting settings in the Device Prioritisation window, (e.g. giving gaming consoles greater priority)... How does this affect other users on the network with regards to their internet speed? Are they still able to access the 90% of normal bandwidth at full speed? Does the Hyper Lane setup impede their connections in any noticeable way? I would be grateful for detailed information so that I can explain this to them properly. Thanks in advance! Setup: Firmware: 1.03.6h Speedtests: 25Mbps - 120Mbps download, 10Mbps upload Virgin Media Hub 3.0 (Modem Mode) > R1 > (Many Devices) PS4 x2, x5 iPhones, 3x MacBook, Mac Mini, Desktop, Laptop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmMoDBoX Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Say for example, we have two PS4's added to the Hyper Lane. I set my CC to 90%. As I understand it, the total network bandwidth is capped at 90%, therefore there is always 10% reserved for use by Hyper Lane traffic - avoiding congestion. Have I understood this correctly? Secondly, if the above is correct. After adjusting settings in the Device Prioritisation window, (e.g. giving gaming consoles greater priority)... How does this affect other users on the network with regards to their internet speed? Are they still able to access the 90% of normal bandwidth at full speed? Does the Hyper Lane setup impede their connections in any noticeable way? The 10% is just cushion so your connection can never be saturated which will cause your ping to rise. This has nothing to do with hyper lane. What hyper lane does is put the packets of data for the devices you specify at the front of the outgoing or upload queue. For example, say your wife is uploading cat videos to youtube while you're gaming. Your ping might increase by a few ms, but since your console is in hyper lane any packets for your console will come and go before her upload. Neither one of you will notice this, her upload would take an extra 2 seconds to finish due to the 10% cushion CC gives you. The way device prioritization works is as long as share excess is ticked it won't effect anything. Say I'm downloading a movie on my phone but I only have 10% set to my phone, I can use 100% of the internet UNLESS your PS4 is on and using up the other 90%... which is nearly impossible because gaming uses very little bandwidth. My rule of thumb is not to change the device prio cause it's not useless, but it is useless with higher speeds such as ours. For example, if you only had 2 mbps down and your wife was streaming HD netflix, you could say she gets 10% and my PS4 gets 90%... While gaming you'll probably use about 1-1.5Mbps so in that case it would help to have device prioritization. Hope that helps? Let me know if something I said isn't clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted December 15, 2016 Administrators Share Posted December 15, 2016 Hey, welcome to the forum! MoD has given you some great advice, let us know if you have any further questions & we'll be happy to help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaawwws Posted December 16, 2016 Author Share Posted December 16, 2016 Hope that helps? Let me know if something I said isn't clear. Hey MoD, That's very helpful, thanks for such a fast response as well! So just to clarify a few things: The Hyper Lane feature doesn't result in other network users receiving slower speeds, just fractionally less total bandwidth? Hyper Lane packets are prioritised regardless of the Device Prio settings? And just one final point, would having a large number of devices on the network make Congestion Control more/if at all noticeable? My main concern is that the other users on the network aren't annoyed by their internet performance whilst the Netduma prioritises packets. From your previous post I'm guessing that their internet speed/performance should be virtually identical with or without CC, excluding the small difference in download speed cap. Is that right? Thanks for all your help! Also thanks, Fraser! Loving the Geo-Filtering so far, I just want to use the Netduma to it's full capabilities now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmMoDBoX Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Hey MoD, That's very helpful, thanks for such a fast response as well! So just to clarify a few things: The Hyper Lane feature doesn't result in other network users receiving slower speeds, just fractionally less total bandwidth? Hyper Lane packets are prioritised regardless of the Device Prio settings? And just one final point, would having a large number of devices on the network make Congestion Control more/if at all noticeable? My main concern is that the other users on the network aren't annoyed by their internet performance whilst the Netduma prioritises packets. From your previous post I'm guessing that their internet speed/performance should be virtually identical with or without CC, excluding the small difference in download speed cap. Is that right? Thanks for all your help! Also thanks, Fraser! Loving the Geo-Filtering so far, I just want to use the Netduma to it's full capabilities now. To keep it simple... I used to have 120 down and 12 up and when I was gaming, I put the CC sliders to 70% each and nobody knew the difference. Websites, youtube, netflix, etc... All work the same. 120 Mbps is plenty of pipe that it's going to drop to about 80 Mbps which is still damn fast for plenty of people to be using all at once. What you said about hyper lane isn't true. All hyper lane does it make sure the device you specified is never in a packet queue. But you're talking milliseconds here, nothing that an average person would notice while watching youtube or on a website lol http://support.netduma.com/support/solutions/articles/16000026365-getting-started-with-congestion-control http://support.netduma.com/support/solutions/articles/16000026314-what-is-congestion-control- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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