michael1983 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Do i really need to forwarding Ports with Upnp, Dmz or PortforwardIng? I have a pretty good hit dedection in Bo3, Bf4 or Destiny but always "a second behind" in gunfights with Modem in Bridgemode and Upnp or Portforwarding on R1. I do Pingplotter a lot of time and i have no Ping spikes or Packetloss ( i read a lot in the Forum for Month's). Yesterday i try to put my Modem in router mode and disable dmz and upnp (is always off). And disabled Upnp or Portforwarding on R1 ( i know to use only one of these to provide NAT conflicts). And thrust my i have flawless gameplay on all games!!!! Why??? Can some one do the same , please and give feedback. Thank you My setting: Modem> R1> Ps4 (wired with Cat6a). - Geo filter enable (Strict, PA 0, Psn, 3074 TCP/UDP) - Reactive (dslreport all A+) - Hyperlane ( Psn, 1935, 3074,3076,3478,3479,3480, both and tcp and udp. - share is ticked. -Msc: only Cookies and Turbomode (100/10 Cable) I hope i don't miss anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael1983 Posted September 2, 2016 Author Share Posted September 2, 2016 In Bo3 i went from open to moderate( it should be). And disable strict on geo filter when i play Bf1, Bf4 and Destiny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted September 5, 2016 Administrators Share Posted September 5, 2016 Great that you have found settings that work for you, I wouldn't personally advise them but if you're happy then that's awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael1983 Posted September 8, 2016 Author Share Posted September 8, 2016 I think i messed up with my settings. It works well for a day and then the lag comes back. Now i' m on the recommmendet setting from you. Upnp on Portf. disabled Hyper- Psn Network. Cc Reactive 91% both ( A+, A, A+). It helped a little bit but not really good. I have a few questions please help me out. -When i use Geo-Filter with Psn and 3074 i See two different colors in im my Radius with different locations (Bo3)? Why - Upnp open only 3074 and 9308( bo3). And only 9308 in (bf4). Does this mean that the other ports are still open? (Modem is in bridge mode). Because when i use upnp i have less lag comp in bf4 but i can Spot only one enemy, when i use portf (1-65535) I can spot all in my sight with one tap. But suffering on "1 second behind". Do you have a recommendation, please. - the Important one. When i use dslreports i have tripple A+ when i use Preemptive 21d/91u. When i do Pingplotter i have packetloss but the graph hops beetwen 15ms and 25ms. Is this good?. When i play i only use my ps4 and nothing else is on my network, sometimes i stream ytube with my laptop at the same time . Thank you for your help.!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael1983 Posted September 8, 2016 Author Share Posted September 8, 2016 No packetloss on all hops. Sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zennon Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 I would suggest 70% both sliders in the congestion control while you game as you are introducing jitter by streaming youtube, 70% will go along way to keep the jitter as low as possible. We need to see the ping plots to be able to advise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted September 8, 2016 Administrators Share Posted September 8, 2016 I think i messed up with my settings. It works well for a day and then the lag comes back. Now i' m on the recommmendet setting from you. Upnp on Portf. disabled Hyper- Psn Network. Cc Reactive 91% both ( A+, A, A+). It helped a little bit but not really good. I have a few questions please help me out. -When i use Geo-Filter with Psn and 3074 i See two different colors in im my Radius with different locations (Bo3)? Why - Upnp open only 3074 and 9308( bo3). And only 9308 in (bf4). Does this mean that the other ports are still open? (Modem is in bridge mode). Because when i use upnp i have less lag comp in bf4 but i can Spot only one enemy, when i use portf (1-65535) I can spot all in my sight with one tap. But suffering on "1 second behind". Do you have a recommendation, please. - the Important one. When i use dslreports i have tripple A+ when i use Preemptive 21d/91u. When i do Pingplotter i have packetloss but the graph hops beetwen 15ms and 25ms. Is this good?. When i play i only use my ps4 and nothing else is on my network, sometimes i stream ytube with my laptop at the same time . Thank you for your help.!!!!!!! As above I would recommend 70/70 anti-flood. If you have devices showing hosts in more than one slot at the top of the Host Filtering page the colours will on the map will represent these devices. What do you mean you can only spot 1 enemy? I'm not sure if this is a network issue, sounds more like a draw distance game thing to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael1983 Posted September 8, 2016 Author Share Posted September 8, 2016 Thank you for your quick reply!!! I will send you picture from my results later today. Sorry i'am from Austria. What i mean with spot is the 3d spotting function in this game. The spotet enemys are highlightet with a triangle. With Upnp - one triangle but less lag. With ( 1-65535) up to four with more lag ( second behind). I hope i don't confuse you too much. I prefer port forwarding more as Upnp but with R1 i will give upnp a try. Why upnp only open 2 ports 3074 and 9308? Ps4 need more ports or do i something missunderstanding or wrong. And geo filter i have both enabled 3074 udp and psn when i play bo3 the host filter show me "more" hosts in my radius. For example 3 yellow and 2 red at the same time. Red 3074 yellow psn. 3074 should already implementat in psn too. Or Not? When i do 70/70 i only get A, A, A Reactive. The best what i can get is: Reactive(91/91) A+, A, A+ Preemptive(21/91) A+, A+, A+ Should i do the pingplotter test with Cc or not? My ISP is Cable Internet and bandwidth is on automatic with disabled ip6 and deep packet. Only turbo mode and cookies. The result with cc 70/70 reactive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael1983 Posted September 9, 2016 Author Share Posted September 9, 2016 Can someone Check my result, please?! Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted September 9, 2016 Administrators Share Posted September 9, 2016 The spotting surely depends on how many people are spotting enemies? I'm not sure how it would translate to being a networking issue. UPnP will open ports it deems need to be open so it's likely at the time it only needed those two. Geo-filter you should be selecting the online service rather than ports, this is likely where the issue comes in. PSN has that port in it yes, just use that instead of ports. Use 70/70 as when congestion is introduced it will take effect much better. I wouldn't worry about the bufferbloat in this regard. Are all consoles connected to the R1? Otherwise CC won't work correctly and could be why you're seeing spikes. You should also put the console in hyper traffic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael1983 Posted September 9, 2016 Author Share Posted September 9, 2016 All devices are connect to the R1 modem> R1> all other. Do you you see any problem with my line? Thank you for your reply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael1983 Posted September 10, 2016 Author Share Posted September 10, 2016 ?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted September 12, 2016 Administrators Share Posted September 12, 2016 Thats the right setup and although there is some spiking it's not by too much. How have you gotten on following my other advice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael1983 Posted September 12, 2016 Author Share Posted September 12, 2016 Disabled portforwarding and ports on geo filter. Now i use upnp and only psn Hyperlane. I tried a lot on this weekend. I have a little improvement in my gameplay experience. And you are right 70/70 are the same as 91/91 and make no difference but i can watch yt will i'm playing. Do you have time for a 1 on 1 please? I need help with my settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael1983 Posted September 12, 2016 Author Share Posted September 12, 2016 All devices are connect to the R1. And disable wifi on my mobil device or are shut down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted September 12, 2016 Administrators Share Posted September 12, 2016 Post in the 1 on 1 section with dates/times are available and I can take a look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statix Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 These games may make you "host" (or otherwise give your connection hosting duties for certain packets of data) if you have all your ports totally open. With the crappy lag compensation these games employ, being host can be a disadvantage for some people. Thus, having closed ports (strict NAT) can actually be a blessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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