
Mostwest
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I recently saw that the R3 dropped and it should have fixed all the weakness that the wifi has. but i'm very surprised that there is still no support for 2.5gb Wan and atleast 1x 2.5gb lan port since until the R4 would likely be 3 to 4 years down the line, but i degress.
When do we need to expect update OS 4.0 for Netduma R2? I expect it to be a couple of months because R3 needs to be sold, before starting to roll out eventually the update.
Will the update be for also Netduma R2 or it will never be available for the device we paid? Asking because last time I checked the beta updates for R2 were still 3.xxx updates. If not I will probably jump the boat and go back to the Edge Router which I still own.
Before hitting me with "We have no current informations or ETA if or when the update will reach R2" ask the developer team since you are in touch and they definitely have already roadmap for all the Netduma products.
We as costumer paid for your products, atleast we deserve some clarification if the OS 4 will reach our R2...
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52 minutes ago, SoniaDavenport said:
Yeah, dealing with YouTube ads can be a bit of a hassle. 😅 Adblockers can work on web browsers like Google Chrome, but for smartphones and TVs, it can be a bit trickier. Some browsers on mobile devices support adblocker extensions, but it's not as seamless as on a desktop.
Yeah, at the end went for Ghostery for Google Chrome and Revanced Youtube for my android devices. It was more than i asked and got more features.
A small heads up: I, like most of you, am techy so those things are pretty regular for us. For my GF i found 12 months premiums for like 25$/€
I might go with that aswell in the next feature when my android apps stops working so also my TV is covered by premium and can avoid ads at all
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Yeah, they could easily market Netduma R3 with basic feautures and Netduma R3 pro with sfp port and atleast 1x 2,5gb and good wifi, you would be amazed on how many people would spend 500€ for R3 pro because we already spent so much money on GPU that a good modem sounds good because you can easily make it future proof... (with or without sfp ports) just anything that's atleast support 2.5gbs wan and lan
I know some providers on my country are selling 2,5gbps connection with modem that doesn't have single 2,5gbps lan ports, only 1 gbps so of course people are ditching that and buying their own modem/router/ap configuration
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On 7/22/2023 at 8:26 AM, Fuzy said:
I don't know the price difference between an integrated switch on a 1G vs 2.5G router but just a 2.5G Wan would allow for better Wifi6 performance... 6E
Then there are a lot of hardward / softward constraints on the routers...
For example, my ISP router allows me to have 10G (8G in Gpon) in SFP+ (with an SFP+ compatible switch behind) but the integrated switch of the 4-port RJ45 ISP router only allows me to have 1G shared... (stupid)
Environment (OS) + speed, it's paid for... and it's very expensive!
Yeah the problem is that you are bound to 1 GB LAN ports wich is the bottleneck.
As far as Rules now atleast in Europe you can request ISP ONT or you can provide one yourself, so you can avoid the first part and the Router you can pick whatever, That's why I was pointing that 1x 2.5 gbps lan and 1x2,5gbps wan + 3x 1 gbbps would be already a very good improvement and step in the right direction.
Nobody expects R3 to have 10 G ports, but 2,5g seems more reasonable, for the wifi part if is not good enough I can keep using another the router as AP exactly like i'm doing right now. Not the most elegant solution but works way better than R2 wifi.
I would totally ditch the wifi part in exchange of the 2,5gbps lan port
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7 hours ago, Netduma Fraser said:
I mean the table there does seem to show the average speeds across the world still aren't that high so only a small amount of people would benefit, if a particular country made up the majority of our sales and had those kind of speeds readily available it would make sense but I don't think we're at that stage yet. Closest would be the XR700 but it's no longer made so would have to be bought second hand. Not ruling it out, just right now I don't think that's our focus, we generally let Netgear do the big hardware and we focus on the software.
People who invest 200€ in a router are most probably people who are already connected to FTTH rather than FTTC. Just launch a small survey, you would be surprised how many people can afford a good pc and fiber connection for gaming.
Me and you are just numbers. Big cities have the fiber, while small places don't. I don't live in a big city but Europe has approved founds to connect more people to the fiber and 2,5gbps plans are more and more common as the same price as Vdsl connections because. How long this router has been out? 2-3 years? The next one definitely need a better wifi (r2 is garbage) and a 2.5gbps port would make the product future proof rather than already obsolete when it comes out. At this point I would rather pay for a Netgear with Dumaos so I can have a powerful router with dumaos features...
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Application Name: War Thunder
Device used for the capture: PC
Any other comments: I already contacted the technical support of the game to let them know that they page with the portfowarding port needs to be updated. and the current DPI for the game in Netduma OS need to be adjusted to those changes. Tested Manually ports vs War Thunder (preset), the preset doesn't cover all the ports wich results in UDP packets not being prioritize
in the meantime those are my captures.
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On 7/17/2023 at 4:06 PM, Netduma Fraser said:
It's certainly not common place at the moment to have connections that fast, for example in the UK where we are based we're only just starting to see connections above 1Gbps but not above 2Gbps. This would all significantly increase the price of the router and we like to keep it at an affordable level so that a lot of people can experience DumaOS. We're certainly not opposed to it and maybe we'll have a higher spec and lower spec router in the future but we are a software company so things like this will take time.
Of course I can't speak for everyone but where I'm From but if you look at the stats of my country (Italy) compared to the rest of the World you get a better picture. Right now they are easily selling 2.5 GBPS connection as basic package for 19.99€
So It would make Sense to Make Netduma R3, a premium product, already 2.5 gbps proof for those who invest those money in gaming, Otherwise Wich netgear router supports DumaOS and has atleast 1x 2.5gbps lan port?
Country Broadband Speed Mobile Speed Monaco 261.82 Singapore 255.83 105.01 Hong Kong 254.7 83.58 Romania 232.17 59.67 Switzerland 229.96 135.7 Denmark 227.91 112.03 Thailand 225.17 56.9 Chile 217.6 21.23 France 214.04 86.51 South Korea 212.57 202.61 Hungary 210.55 60.16 Liechtenstein 204.78 United States 203.81 110.07 Spain 201.47 61.62 China 196.57 165.38 United Arab Emirates 189.07 238.06 Canada 183.81 95.78 Macau 178.9 62.31 Japan 178.76 69.02 Sweden 174.9 103.08 Luxembourg 172.05 116.76 Andorra 171.44 New Zealand 170.51 75.91 Norway 168.25 177.72 Netherlands 165 106.98 Israel 162.66 48.3 Portugal 162.55 59.91 Poland 156.33 57.23 Moldova 154.56 42.99 Taiwan 152.01 95.51 Kuwait 149.37 157.18 Lithuania 147.05 66.25 Malta 144.06 70.73 Panama 137.38 20.44 Germany 136.66 83.06 Latvia 135.22 50.07 Finland 135.05 88.23 Belgium 125.12 69.76 Ireland 122.55 62.66 San Marino 121.4 Slovenia 115.61 74.84 Slovakia 115.11 56.01 Qatar 113.88 172.18 Brazil 113.09 33.92 Barbados 109.41 Malaysia 107.55 31.34 Italy 104.09 55.41 United Kingdom 102.24 86.56 Russia 95.96 28.99 Saudi Arabia 94.64 155.97 -
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Has already said the DumaOs already has that and to more clear i tried both SQM by EdgeRouter and QoS (priority and ports) on r2 and works way better for gaming the Netduma R2
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Yeah, no problem I can provide multiple capture of multiple matches also devided in Server choices. EU, RU, US, SA
this could get a clearer picture of what's packets and ports are being used.
EDIT: I still asked War Thunder Technical support to update their port informations because now seams a little bit out of date.
https://support.gaijin.net/hc/en-us/articles/200070211--War-Thunder-game-ports
like the ports UDP 16172 is not used anymore, while before it was used in every single match
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Situation: I tried the new War Thunder game options since it was recently added In the Game List and i'm gratefull for that (since I requested it). On the Side I've keep all the ports used by the game, basically I was just creating rules for the ports used by the game.
Problem: War Thunder option is not correct, everytime I use it (without any other prioritazion applied) I experience lag a basic network issues exactly like when congestion control is off. I tried again with War thunder tag disabled in prioritization and only applied the rules that the game uses https://support.gaijin.net/hc/en-us/articles/200070211--War-Thunder-game-ports and worked like always without any trouble and without issues.
Suggestion: War Thunder tag is not correct and for the time being you are better off using the UDP ports suggested on the official site of the game. Either the DPI system got the packets wrong or you need to manually tell the system with ports are being used. I've used Wireshark to double check the ports in the past to make sure I wasn't just using random ports.
My firmware is R2 3.3.280
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4 hours ago, Netduma Fraser said:
The new DPI doesn't necessarily mean every game will be automatically recognized, we still have to train it, the game is on the list to go through it so you don't need to do anything on that front. Just continue what you have been doing for the moment and we'll get it done.
Which means the new DPI thing is not in the Netduma R2 but rather you will have to update the list of game, but that's the opposite of what the video you guys published a month ago says.
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I updated the R2 to the latest firmware 3.3.280 that should have a new DPI engine but still War thunder is not recognized.
It's a game that has been out since 2014 and became popular in the last 3-4 years
I already sent my Wireshark capture around 7-8 months ago.
Do I need to keep adding manually the ports and hope it works correctly or somebody can explain to me how the new DPI engine should be better at adding game by itself?
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Due postille
A) Se decidi di usare DMZ devi collegare R2 e il TP link usando LAN-LAN sulle porte e non LAN-WAN (wan r2), altrimenti L'R2 non verrà riconosciuto, Collega LAN-LAN vai sul TP link e dai indirizzo statico (basta che usi quello che TP link gli ha generato per esempio 192.168.1.XXX) e poi inserisci lo stesso IP nella voce DMZ
Non consiglio il DMZ, meglio bridge così lasci che sia il router a gestire QOS e tutte le tue connessioni altrimenti potresti avere rallentamenti quando qualcosa è connesso al TP-link e sta usando internet pesantemente
B ) Se in futuro deciderai di comprare un modem-only per gestire la connessione bridge consiglio Zyxel VDSL2 (VMG4005-B50A-EU01V1F), lo trovi su amazon. Costicchia ora è sui 100€ ma è una bomba e aggancia le connessioni perfettamente fino all'ultimo kb disponibile. esattamente come il TP link ti basta collegarti al modem, metti gli stessi parametri e lo metti in bridge mode
è un modem VDSL e non ha possibilità di collegare la FTTH, ma solo FTTC
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On 12/6/2022 at 5:37 PM, Fox991 said:
Si certo, tp fornisce tranquillamente internet
È la configurazione sbagliata sul tuo TP.
Vai su avanzate: poin Network---> DSL internet. Elimina ogni voce, poi inizi da zero. Fai Add poi quando ti chiede il parametro della connessione selezioni Bridge e inserisci il valore corretto della Vlan di fastweb (informazio che puoi trovare in rete, per Tim è 835) una volta Inserito il valore confermi. Il modem creara la connessione bridge è noterai che ti darà i parametri della velocità correttamente ma non sarai in grado di navigare in quanto in bridge mode.
Metti il cavo ethernet nella porta LAN tp link e la porta blu WAN delle r2
Vai sull'R2 e inserisci i tuoi parametri delle connessioni. Non inserire vlan Id perché lo hai già messo dal tp link (altrimenti non funzionerà) se hai fatto tutto correttamente dovrebbe funzionare alla grande, altrimenti assicurati che i parametri di connessione sulla R2 siano corretti. Nel mio caso Tim uso pppoe e metto credenziali a caso che funziona lo stesso.
Consiglio di attivare upstream DNS mentre ti assicuri che funziona tutto correttamente, poi in seguito sarai libero di mettere quelli che vuoi
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On 12/5/2022 at 10:24 AM, alex.devine said:
I am thinking of purchasing the R2, I have the XR500 right now but Netgear take too long to get the new versions and will never purchase another product from them.
Very poor.
Can you let me know how good the R2 wifi coverage is compared to the XR500?
Thank you.
WiFi is poor, really. My old cheap isp modem from does it better both speed and signal and keep in mind I'm using it as Access Point directly connected to the R2
If you know a little bit of networking you could use your router as AP or if you have money to throw you could just buy an access point
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3 hours ago, Fox991 said:
Ti ringrazio per i tuoi consigli così "arroganti", il tim hub comunque supporta la modalità bridge. Farò sapere ai tuoi colleghi dopo aver effettuato il collegamento visto i tuoi modi di rispondere 👍🏻
Non sono arrogante, ti ho solo detto le cose come stanno.
Non sono affiliato a nessuno e sia io che l'utente ufficiale della netduma abbiamo provato a venirti incontro e consigliarti. Poi se libero di accettare o meno i consigli. Ma siccome hai già le risposte in mano forse sei tu che non accetti consigli, nonostante tu sia venuto a chiederli. Fai come vuoi. Il mio contributo a questa chat finisce qui e non scriverò più se in futuro avrai bisogno, ti seguiranno i canali ufficiali. Consiglio l'inglese dato che qui nessuno parla italiano e google translate non è affidabile. Buona giornata.
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2 hours ago, Fox991 said:
Mi dispiace contraddirti in questo caso. Il passaggio a Tim lo sto effettuando poiché il modem che mi darà è compatibile con i router da gaming, il mio migliore amico ha tim e con il timhub che forniscono non ha avuto alcun problema nel collegare il router. Ha semplicemente collegato i due cavi ethernet come scritto.nella guida. Quindi se sto facendo il passaggio è perché sono già sicuro che quel modem sia compatibile 👍🏻
Fai un po' come ti pare. Da utente TIM so come stanno le cose. il tuo amico è riusciuto a far funzionare la cosa alla carlona, ma il modem della tim non ha una funzione bridge mode, semplicemente ha collegato il modem come fosse un qualsiasi dispositivo. tanto è vero che se dalla sua console o da Xbox companion probabilmente gli Comparirà NAT ristretto. Detto questo complimenti per aver buttato via 240€ per un modem-router della tim a cui dovrai affiancare il tuo R2.
Io ti ho avvisato che il modo corretto per usare il tuo R2 è usare un bridge prima, però è un paese libero, i soldi sono i tuoi quindi tanti auguri. Mi raccomando poi torna qua a lamentarti che hai dei ritardi nel gaming.
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12 hours ago, Fox991 said:
Aggiornamento.
Ho chiamato l'assistenza fastweb. Mi hanno confermato che il modem in mio possesso non consente l'utilizzo di router. Contatterò un altro operatore (probabilmente tim) per fare il passaggio ed avere un modem che probabilmente consentirà il collegamento. Vi aggiorno appena ho novità
Stai commettendo un errore perché anche TIM ti fornirà un modem senza bridge mode.
Puoi anche rimanere a fastweb, oppure passare a Tim. Ma in ogni caso devi metterci il modem, non devi utilizzare il loro che è pure overprezzato. Compri il modem che vuoi e ci metti dentro le configurazioni che ti servono per il tuo provider.
Consiglio il Zyxel modem funziona molto bene ed aggancia il massimo segnale. Costa 100€ l'alternativa è il TP link che costa di meno ma in futuro potrai utilizzarlo anche in altri modi.
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9 hours ago, GrumpyOldMan said:
Mine does the exact same thing its been like that since i updated to the new firmware. I just ordered an Asus gaming router, you spend more time troubleshooting this thing than actually getting any use out of it
Why would you waste money on an asus gaming router if all you need is SQM or bufferbloat control? Edgerouter does it perfectly.
If R2 is faulty then it's unfortunate, but if the problem is not the router by the configuration you will have problems no matter wich router will you buy
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10 hours ago, johnny030 said:
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Hi Support,
I have my R2 directly connected to my Fritz 5490, R2 WAN set in DMZ in Fritz. But unfornutately I can't use any of the functions. Geolocation doesn't work but does show to be functioning in the interface. Ping heatmap gives error Cloud data has not been downloaded. Make sure you have an internet connection and click FORCE UPDATE.
I've factory reset the router twice now to no avail.
What am I missing here? Please halp.
Is your R2 showing up in your Fritz as dumaos in your dhcp and wired connected devices? If not you probably got DMZ wrong
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1 hour ago, Fox991 said:
No. Purtroppo il mio ISP non mi è di aiuto. Domani provo a chiamarli nuovamente e vedere con un altro operatore se trovo una soluzione. Altrimenti devo cambiare gestore internet per non rimandare indietro il mio R2
Da quello che ho capito in rete il tuo Fastgate non supporta Bride mode, nel senso che sono versioni "bloccate" con meno funzionalità. Il mio consiglio è di chiedere alla fastweb come mettere il tuo modem in Bridge, se ti dicono che non si può ti consiglio di comprare un altro modem. Personalmente io avevo il tuo stesso problema, ma con TIM. Ovvero la mancanza della Bridge Mode. Per risolvere ho comprato il TP-Link VR1210v. Lo trovi su Amazon ad una buon cifra e supporta VDSL fino a 300 mbs oppure FTTH a 1 gbs. Molto semplice da utilizzare e configurare, contiene già i preset per le varie compagnie italiane inclusa fastweb ed ha altre funzionalità in caso dovessi usarlo in futuro per altre cose.
Una volta messo in Bridge mode poi R2 gestisce lui la connessione.
Prima di comprare qualsiasi cosa informati se il tuo modem Supporta il Bridge mode
in alternativa puoi fare cosi:
1)Collega il fastgate e R2 entrambi usando porte LAN (non usare la WAN)
2)Seleziona DHCP come connessione su R2
3)Collega il pc al fastgate e controlla i dispositivi collegati, dovresti trovare "dumaos"
4)Assicurati di dargli un IP statico nella rete del tuo fastgate (non fastweb, ma del tuo modem)
5)in DMZ inserisci l'ip con cui è collegato R2.
IN questo modo dovresti essere in grado di usare r2 come router ed avere accesso ad Internet anche se DMZ non è l'opzione migliore per il QOS
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On 11/18/2022 at 4:21 PM, Netduma Fraser said:
@Mostwest thank you for the suggestions!
- There is a limited amount we can do via the software but we're doing what we can
- We kind of already have the functionality for that but I don't know if there are plans currently to make this active
- For our customer base I think this is a bit overkill and would drive up the price quite a lot and exclude a lot of our customers as there are very few who have over 1Gbps
- Could you expand on what you mean exactly?
- You can make custom rules to prioritize ports currently
1. yes. Software wise there is not much to do about that, That's why i said R3 as next hardware upgrade
2. That should be easy to code, it's already there but not for the consumer
3. The thing is that most of Motherboards have now 2,5gb ports and R3 would make it future proof. It's a gaming router that already cost around 200$ pretty sure most of the people would be happy to have a 2.5gb ports instead of using other routers
4. As now the Geofilter list can't be modified by the consumers, it would be cool if we were able to make it work regardless if the game is in the list or not. Right now only works for some games, but if we know the server or R2 would be able to save the list of the one used and exclude the one with biggest ping
5. Yes, you can manually add those ports but as for now they are not recognized as gaming traffic, but unknown traffic so the distribuition based on games wouldn't make sense.
As A side note would be cool if R2 with a software could just scan the exe of the game and in 1-2 weeks could automatically create rules for ports that are used. This would definitely help the devs, speeding up times and every consumer would be happy.
Software could do like register all ports used by game.exe (example) in 1-2 weeks of gaming it would be able to map those ports and send them to the R2 to be added automatically.
2 years after the last firmware update...
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Personal experience with the beta
We were told not to worry that the team would have released the v4 also for R2
How is possible that after 2 full year (March 2023), the V4 stable is still non available for R2. How long are you guys beta testing this thing? for 1-2 years
If it's not ready so be it, but I haven't seen very much commitment to bring the V4 stable on R2 which wasn't cheap.
Forcing people to buy R3 because software features that improves game experience.
Maybe it just an hardware limitation, i'm ok with it, just full transparency...
I wouldn't be upset if you would just say "Hey 3.3 would be the last stable update for R2, if you wish more the R3 is the next step. thank you", rather than "oh we are working on it" beta testing for how many years now??
EDIT: Forgot to mention that I applied for beta testing and the last bets version worked without much troubles delivering a better gaming experience but I can also see people struggling with the firmware and I really feel bad for them because that could have been me.