nollies1 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 I've been away from here for many months. Sorry about that. I've been hopping around in here now and then for the past couple weeks though, but just haven't been posting, helping the noobs out, etc in a long while. Anyways, I wanted to ask something to expedite my catching up on things as I continue to read up on stuff here. *QUESTION: What is the community aware of thus far in terms of future features pertaining, oh let's see, I'd say collectively my main curiosity for now is about the Geofilter... is there a post you recall or someone else's inquiry up here that you can link me to? Sry/thx! ------------- Context?... I just wrote then deleted a novel lol. Wanted to keep it short for now. Let's please assume for now I'm set up properly and can achieve A ratings on all relevant variables etc. Long story short is that for my particular case (this pertains only to CoD IW on PS4), after months and endless experimentation etc., the 'ideal' or perhaps stretch goal per se, for me, would basically be the following: - Ability to literally freehand draw the geo regions I'd like to include/exclude lol, rather than the circular radar thing -Ability to incorporate PA but to permanently, and/or have added control of the duration, i.e., not 'temporarily', be able to block each and every dedi that the game keeps wanting to place me on. The short version is that I'm in a location where essentially PA is rendered useless, unchecking strict mode is useless, and there is a steep shelf effect when exclusively using Geo, in that there is a radius setting where just slight tweaking up immediately puts me on the undesired lagfest dedi's I'm trying to avoid, and a slight down in radius will just never get me in a lobby (and I mean that). *Tone check - this isn't a rage/hate/troll post I promise. I know I can give much more info but was hoping to just focus for now on finding out what we know about the future of PA and Geo; if something above doesn't make sense I understand as I left a lotta stuff out that would perhaps clarify/justify my findings. Cheers and hope everybody is well! -Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nollies1 Posted February 27, 2017 Author Share Posted February 27, 2017 I live near Washington D.C. The game on its own by default places me in the NY area servers, which 90% of the time I have to deal with everyone skipping about/ light teleporting. When I host with friends from around the country we collectively have the best experience when landing on the Atlanta and Dallas servers. I personally (when solo) have the smoothest running game plays when on Atlanta. Messing with PA and/or ticking off strict mode ---> I always get sent to NY Sticking the circle 'home' icon around Atlanta, the game coughs and sneezes and more often than I'd like either never finds a lobby for me or tries to, then boots me out (and continued attempts to start a game after this point repeats the weird booting thing). If I continue expanding the radius eventually I end up always getting on the NY servers again. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p00psm00thie Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 I think we are all in the same boat of sorts as far as the slight trimming of the geo-filter. What I ended up doing is moving my home location and reducing and increasing until I found a happy medium between Illinois and California so that I ONLY play in Dallas dedicated matches for IW and MWR. I do see more lobbies that I get kicked from before it finally selects a player host within my radius and then Dallas dedi. Maybe see 4-6 lobby kicks before a match but once I'm in it stays that way unless everyone leaves. Lol. It's not the Dumas fault per say, just a slight variance of what we've done in the past due to Activision use of player host before selecting dedi. The only thing they have left to try is dedicated server lists like pc and bf1 on ps4. But then our geo filter would kind of be obsolete for CoD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nollies1 Posted February 27, 2017 Author Share Posted February 27, 2017 Um you don't have something set right there are many servers by your location. No reason you should be connecting that far away. Set your home location on pc, reboot router. Make sure it's still there. Then power down ps4. Turn back on. Set distance at 450, strict, zero ping. Make sure cloud is updated, recheck apply. New York aka NJ server is horrible. I was unaware of any dedi's in the D.C. area. I'm not trying to cause trouble here lol, just my observations that there's NE area and then SE etc. area as far as East Coast/ EST goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted February 27, 2017 Administrators Share Posted February 27, 2017 The things you have mentioned have been asked for, at this point I can't say if they'll be in the beta or even by launch. However, we're able to develop very fast on DumaOS so those could be things we implement after if they're not present in beta/by launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nollies1 Posted February 27, 2017 Author Share Posted February 27, 2017 Cool. As sm00thie pointed out, this isn't any 'fault' of the Duma. I should clarify that. It just gets cumbersome. More often than not I will just leave everything off, more or less due to - The 2 minute delay thing (which yes I understand the logic is to prevent dashboarding etc) just pisses off my friends lol, bc any time someone joins the party who isn't already in my allow list (or someone who was but their isp reset their IP), I have to 'add' them, sometimes I can click their yellow "!" on the map and adjust on the fly, other times I have to click off the enable button, and regardless we all wait a few minutes... and this almost always results in the 'try to join a game but keep getting booted' cycle, so then I end up rebooting everything (PS4+Duma), and reform the party and... then, during this time, or let's say a game or two later, a friend of someone in the party hops in and wants to play too lol... so I have to repeat the whole process. By that point people start getting grumpy, give up and leave, or I just say the hell with it and keep all the settings off. I prefer playing in a party but it's such a pain in the butt - someone gets disconnected so we back out after the game ends, or perhaps let's say we all leave the game for whatever reason (not necessarily rage quitting but say we join in and it's a losing battle by multi fold, the enemy is just spawntrapping or they all got their top streaks out etc so all of us are like screw that we're outta here)... and it's as if that gums up the ability to find another match as the booting thing will happen. So, we either wait yet again (but the booting thing usually persists), or I reboot everything and reform the party etc... and by then people are frustrated again lol. - and the damn NE servers argh. I'm sure there's a conceptual reason why it can't be done, but it would be awesome if the server ban wasn't 'temporary'... why again can't we just perma-block these crappy servers we never want anyways. Same thing even when I'm playing solo... with booting out of lobbies, trying to block NE area servers, rebooting my stuff if I bounce out of a 10-80 losing match I just joined because if I don't reboot it I'll typically never be able to find+get into a match+not be booted out of the lobby afterwards, etc etc... before I know it I just spent 20-30 min 'fixing' stuff for a game session that I only had an hour or so to partake in. *i know I just crabbed about stuff, please don't read it like that. *rather, perhaps if anyone else has these issues then please let me know so I don't lose any more sanity I have lol And bonus points if you have a fix for this, or perhaps know whether the future OS will not yield the same experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted February 27, 2017 Administrators Share Posted February 27, 2017 You should only have to add your friends one time so you shouldn't keep encountering that issue. Unless you are having NAT issues? Just make sure you're radius is excluding those servers, strict on & ping assist 0 and you'll never get them again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nollies1 Posted February 27, 2017 Author Share Posted February 27, 2017 Thanks for the input, indeed that's where I've been at as of late, and/but still having to cycle through the above whenever someone wants to join in and they are not in the allow list. -totally agree, with the exception of say, I have a casual playing friend who hops in one weekend a month for instance. During the time he was away, their ISP reset his/her DHCP-allocated IP, thus the Duma doesn't recognize it and I need to re-add him/her to the allow list. *For education purposes... Are you able/willing to talk a bit/ cite any previous discussion, about the current situation of only being able to temporarily block dedis by chance? If permanence is not to be a feature, is being able to have some degree of control over the timing (e.g., '24 h, 2 weeks', etc.) feasible or is this not really a mainstream desire/ target goal for you? The NE dedi's are dare I say tolerable lol... at low population times (we played search for a few hours at like 1-3 am last night for example and it was more or less livable per se), but it's sheer wrist slitting anytime during the day and during peak times etc (eves/weekends/etc.), so as crazy as this sounds, some type of 'scheduler' to store time blocks of 'allow/deny' would be cool to for those in my location/ situation.? Who knows, just wondering myself here... In this scenario, maybe the permanent blocking idea isn't ideal since it is likely (relatively speaking) going to be a challenge finding non NE hosted lobbies during low pop count times.(?). ---------- Ok, so the main thing at this point I'm gathering regardless is that - the approach taken sounds to be a reasonable current solution (as this was also a recommended tactic by Duma Fraser ); and - extrapolating from the same post (~'set it up like that and leave it like that'), I presume that it's not only me who experiences the need to reboot everything whenever any range of changes are made. If not, then by all means please correct me/chime in, anyone and everyone who has found a best practices which for them seems to help. As for me, to reiterate/clarify, as of present, other than just toggling on/off the strict mode, any other type of change I make results in a lot of coughing and sneezing that is only rectified by my rebooting it all. (Again I am not dumping on this router, I flipping love it and know it does what it was designed to do; all my comments are just subtle nitpicky desires per se)... if anything, it just seems that the IW matchmaking algorithms get confused or will 'get locked up' all the time, even if for example I am patient and we just ride out the two minute delay-of-implementation thing. Sorry abt the verbosity; one day I will learn to be concise. Thx for reading nonetheless. -Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p00psm00thie Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Your description of lobbies with or without friends matches my experience exactly. With friends I usually find the friend closest to the dedi we want for that group and all join on him. Usually it will keep him in the dedi of choice. When alone I use the duma. I got tired of adding people to the allow list after their IP changed and having to wait for them to be allowed to join and waiting 2 minutes with them breathing down my neck. It's and ways the same.... " I thought you had this badass router??? Wtf is the hold up?? Lol" So I gave up on parties with the duma. Playing alone, I seldom back out. I just take my lumps and wait for the next map to exact revenge. :-) Nothing is more satisfying then letting the little spawn campers/trappers get their rocks off with all of their streaks etc. Then be that one guy that's stomps their entire 6 man crew the very next map... they tend to stfu and back out lol. Also, you really don't want to make server bans more permanent. With the way servers are moved around and what not the Duma team would be fielding troubled posts every five seconds for banning the wrong one permanently and all of the sudden they can't access PSN for authentication or something. They're busy enough with explaining UPNP, DMZ, manual port forwards etc. Tons of users already blame the Duma unknowingly for their ISP issues. I do wish for a geofilter of a different shape. I'd like to grab Dallas and Atlanta in one range but in order to that I'd pick up Miami and/or Chicago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted February 28, 2017 Administrators Share Posted February 28, 2017 Blocking permanently isn't something we're likely to do as it can cause more problems with your game experience in the long run. Allowing users shouldn't really take 2 minutes, there isn't a good reason for that I can think of so we could probably remove that which would likely solve a lot of your issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nollies1 Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 Thanks both of you for added comments. Reassuring this is a known experience. That would be awesome Re looking into the 2 min thing. I (and also sounds like sm00thie as well, likely others?...) spend probably as much time calming down frustrated friend's who complain about 'that awesome router' as you all do helping out beginners who may get stuck while reading the wiki pages/ skip it lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nollies1 Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 And yes also perhaps random shapes of the allow radius?, like a bean shaped one, a rectangle, etc. We'll all survive just fine but if that's just a matter of adding a small amount of code to define the size (and now shape) of the allow range, that would be quite helpful I'd think for many of us in these weird pockets of geography with polar opposite results between nearby dedi regions e.g. NE+SE in the states. Thx for reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted March 1, 2017 Administrators Share Posted March 1, 2017 Thanks both of you for added comments. Reassuring this is a known experience. That would be awesome Re looking into the 2 min thing. I (and also sounds like sm00thie as well, likely others?...) spend probably as much time calming down frustrated friend's who complain about 'that awesome router' as you all do helping out beginners who may get stuck while reading the wiki pages/ skip it lol I will look to remove that for adding a friend. And yes also perhaps random shapes of the allow radius?, like a bean shaped one, a rectangle, etc. We'll all survive just fine but if that's just a matter of adding a small amount of code to define the size (and now shape) of the allow range, that would be quite helpful I'd think for many of us in these weird pockets of geography with polar opposite results between nearby dedi regions e.g. NE+SE in the states. Thx for reading That has been suggested before so we'll definitely look into it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nollies1 Posted March 4, 2017 Author Share Posted March 4, 2017 Awesome! Keep up the great work. I don't how you do it, but it's highly appreciated and I promise one day I will post something that's not just me barking about something Cheers -Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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