DARK BAWGS Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 It has taken forever for me to make any progress in BO3! In a large part it is this forum that has helped me greatly. Love my Duma, and based on suggestions from you all I bought a new 27" Benko gaming monitor - what a difference for my feeble eye! I have struggled with B03 which has been frustrating and i was feeling pretty discouraged; however today while Rebus and I were out walking I reviewed what has happened, and it is not as bad as I felt it was (I know for some of you, my performance would have had you ranting and raging). First off I started with the Beta on Xbox One and it went very well, once the game launched however it was a disaster. My SPM was about 50 and my k/d was in the .30 range - it didn't seem to matter what I did! Then I got my Duma and the matches got better as I had less laggy games. The problem, as many of you know, it was difficult to find games in my "area" which is half way between Buffalo and Toronto - hard to believe. At this point I am only at level 34 my k/d is up in the .64 range and the SPM is 130. About 3 weeks ago I made a major change - I bought a PS4! Well I have found that I never wait for a game and rarely have lag problems. I stopped playing TDM as much and play objective based games, suggestion on this forum. In three weeks I have reached level 55 and finished it. Now should I Prestige? My k/d is still very low .55 but SPM has improved. I don't camp but loose most head on gun battles - too darned impatient and do stupid things. I also have a tendency to move forward at the enemy as we fight which just makes me a better target - it is reflex and I am working on it. Based on this I don't think I should Prestige at this point in time. I normally go into Custom Matches and do some Aiming and Reaction drills before I get into a game. Recently I have been playing in a party with some pretty good players and that seems to be helping. I was on AW from the very beginning and let me say one thing about that game - thank God it is over! So that's my story and I am stuck with it. Just wanted to share with you my experience with COD in 2015! I am looking forward to 2016 and hopefully some modest performance improvements. I know I will never improve very much, the days of high-level play are behind me as age has placed some limitations on me - but never say die - I keep trying and hoping. I would love to connect with some of you all and play a few games with you. Please feel free to "Friend Request" me if you like. Your fellow Duma-er... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JConnor Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 If you are having fun... Prestige. If not, stop and find another game to play, or do something else that makes you happy. One thing we have to admit as older gamers is some of us *don't* have as much free time as the young ones do who can spend 6-8 hours a day playing the game over and over and over again. They may have part-time work, school, classes (college), but at their age they will manage to do all of that and still play more in one week than most of us will in one month! Not everybody, but a vast majority will... Especially in the winter when going outside isn't that appealing, for obvious reasons. I am not going to prestige (never have, never will) simply because I can tell whenever I play MP I am playing against "sweaty try hards" since 90% of them have clan tags and/or are high level prestige. I say "sweaty try hard" because a lot of them want to be the next E-Sports champions, so they make CoD their full-time "job" and it shows. Public matches are no longer casual in that sense. They are just sparring practice compared to Arena, GB and other formal & ranked competitions. I can't compete with that and don't have to because that is the definition of insanity: Doing the same thing over and over hoping for a different outcome. Happy New Year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macca65 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Hey Dark Bawgs What's your GT on the PS will add you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillinger Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 I am really happy for you Bawgs, it sounds like you have settled into a nice rhythm with the game. As stated above, if you are having fun, go ahead and prestige. Just make sure you don't have (3) things you can't possibly live without (like 2 perks of Dead SIlence and Flak Jacket/Ghost and your favorite gun), because you only get one bronze unlock token. I was grinding last night testing some new settings (thread to follow in Jan based on canary results) and got through with Level 3, entered prestige last night and chose my carry over item. I now have Ghost, Dead Silence, Scavenger and my beautiful M8 unlocked. I love that gun man. Couple it with a Battle Beaver with electronic triggers and it's a firehose of death...LOL If you are playing with a party, ask them to run UAV or Counter UAV for you. That will help your K/D and SPM if you know more where the enemies are and they know where you are a lot less. One thing I can tell you is CoD is about sight lines. If you can see straight down a lane, don't RUN straight down that lane. Move forward, but put a wall or a head glitch behind you when you can. Ducking in and out of cover moving ahead is normal, but don't forget you can do the same thing and put that exact headglitch directly behind you as you advance. It helps, believe me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK_Wildcats_Fans Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 PS4, Benq and Netduma is a great combination. I recommend that you do not prestige yet. Prestige will only get you an extra class slot. I suggest that you play around with weapons, attachments, perks, tacticals, lethals, etc. Find the class setups that work best for you and you are most effective for you. Once you find what works best for you, you can then prestige if you want especially if it is x2 XP weekend. Playing with randoms make it much more difficult. I HIGHLY recommend playing with friends that are good players with mics. Call outs are very important and greatly help. I also recommend watching videos from the below youtubers. https://www.youtube.com/user/Drift0r - He does some great in depth analysis of the various weapons, attachments, etc. https://www.youtube.com/user/TheXclusiveAce - He gives some great tips especially for Domination. He also reviews various maps and lines of sights. Private Match - This is a great place to test various weapons, attachments, etc to see what plays best for you before trying them in a public match. It is also a great place to test wall run spots and to know the maps very well. To help improve my aim and warm up, I often play a private match with bots with health set to 200%. Here are some of my general tips. Take it slow and don't run unless you have teammates with you. Aim around corners Use the mini map to constantly see where your teammates are dying, where they are and aren't Use long barrel on assault rifles (doubles the range) I find that fast mags helps me more than ext mags (fast mags and ext mags are a great combo for Vesper & VMP) Watch the kill cams Party with good players Use lower scorestreaks and gradually work your way up as you are more consistently getting them. Make sure that you use the correct weapon for the map and situation (i.e. shotgun on large map is not good) Scavenger replenishes tacticals, lethals too Make sure that perks match your play style and objective (i.e. flak jacket and tactical mask for small maps like Combine Domination) Most importantly - Make sure that you are having fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JConnor Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 One thing I feel is greatly overlooked for us older players is mindset. I will admit I have fallen into the trap (many, many times) that I have to be "faster", or "better" than the majority of kids playing. False. Even though CoD is a twitch-based shooter, I have to remember I don't have to be faster. I just have to be smarter. This means using the tools (attachments, perks, scorestreaks) I'm given to make up for my lack of lightening fast reflexes. There is a reason the UAV is one of the lowest scorestreaks available as well as the HD-XC. Use them. The remote controlled car is not considered "cheap" and if it is, so what? The UAV tells you where people are... Who aren't using Ghost, or suppressors... And just by seeing where the skulls of your dead team mates are popping also tells you to either go the opposite way, or approach with caution. The best thing an older player has is their awareness of what is going on in the game at any given time. Most younger players concentrate solely on their K/D... Even in objective modes. Don't fall into that mindset. It would be nice to have 42/15 and 10 captures in DOM, but that's not realistic for ANYBODY in a public match. So, focus on what you can achieve which I assume for older players will be "PTFO" which will net you MORE points overall at the end of the match. Your final score may be 23/45, but with 13 captures -- That I've miraculously pulled off before -- But guess who will be in the Winners Circle much to the amazement of 95% of the players in the match? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK_Wildcats_Fans Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 One thing I feel is greatly overlooked for us older players is mindset. I will admit I have fallen into the trap (many, many times) that I have to be "faster", or "better" than the majority of kids playing. False. Even though CoD is a twitch-based shooter, I have to remember I don't have to be faster. I just have to be smarter. This means using the tools (attachments, perks, scorestreaks) I'm given to make up for my lack of lightening fast reflexes. There is a reason the UAV is one of the lowest scorestreaks available as well as the HD-XC. Use them. The remote controlled car is not considered "cheap" and if it is, so what? The UAV tells you where people are... Who aren't using Ghost, or suppressors... And just by seeing where the skulls of your dead team mates are popping also tells you to either go the opposite way, or approach with caution. The best thing an older player has is their awareness of what is going on in the game at any given time. Most younger players concentrate solely on their K/D... Even in objective modes. Don't fall into that mindset. It would be nice to have 42/15 and 10 captures in DOM, but that's not realistic for ANYBODY in a public match. So, focus on what you can achieve which I assume for older players will be "PTFO" which will net you MORE points overall at the end of the match. Your final score may be 23/45, but with 13 captures -- That I've miraculously pulled off before -- But guess who will be in the Winners Circle much to the amazement of 95% of the players in the match? Great point. I play with some real slayers. I am above average player but not a true slayer like them. They like playing with me because I am constantly adapting my role to what is needed - i.e. taking/defending objectives, holding down an area so I watch their back or push forward, holding back to ensure the spawns don't flip and have enemies on the backside. I will also run lower streaks to help the team (UAV, counter UAV, sentry gun) that allows the team to do well and hold down objectives/areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzy clam Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 As long as your enjoying the game do what ever you like,just as long as your having fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JConnor Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Dark Bawgs, One overlooked tip for BO3 is to use STOCK attachment on your weapons. It's overlooked because people mistakenly think it's nerfed for some reason? Put it on any AR and you move twice as fast WITH your gun aiming down sights. This is how people actually head glitch most effectively. They use stock which makes them move faster while strafing side-to-side behind a box. Put in on a SMG and you are literally running... Not sprinting, or walking... With ADS up. That's a huge advantage if you are out in the open and in a known choke point since CoD is a "he who sees somebody first wins" type of game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARK BAWGS Posted January 1, 2016 Author Share Posted January 1, 2016 Hey Dark Bawgs What's your GT on the PS will add you It is DARK_BAWGS... Hope to see you on soon. I am away for the weekend... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARK BAWGS Posted January 1, 2016 Author Share Posted January 1, 2016 I am really happy for you Bawgs, it sounds like you have settled into a nice rhythm with the game. As stated above, if you are having fun, go ahead and prestige. Just make sure you don't have (3) things you can't possibly live without (like 2 perks of Dead SIlence and Flak Jacket/Ghost and your favorite gun), because you only get one bronze unlock token. I was grinding last night testing some new settings (thread to follow in Jan based on canary results) and got through with Level 3, entered prestige last night and chose my carry over item. I now have Ghost, Dead Silence, Scavenger and my beautiful M8 unlocked. I love that gun man. Couple it with a Battle Beaver with electronic triggers and it's a firehose of death...LOL If you are playing with a party, ask them to run UAV or Counter UAV for you. That will help your K/D and SPM if you know more where the enemies are and they know where you are a lot less. One thing I can tell you is CoD is about sight lines. If you can see straight down a lane, don't RUN straight down that lane. Move forward, but put a wall or a head glitch behind you when you can. Ducking in and out of cover moving ahead is normal, but don't forget you can do the same thing and put that exact headglitch directly behind you as you advance. It helps, believe me! As always great info and insight, thanks Dill... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARK BAWGS Posted January 2, 2016 Author Share Posted January 2, 2016 Thanks to everyone for your responses; I appreciate the suggestions and encouragement. This is what I was talking about in my Post "Great Forum". You guys are super... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARK BAWGS Posted January 2, 2016 Author Share Posted January 2, 2016 If you are having fun... Prestige. If not, stop and find another game to play, or do something else that makes you happy. One thing we have to admit as older gamers is some of us *don't* have as much free time as the young ones do who can spend 6-8 hours a day playing the game over and over and over again. They may have part-time work, school, classes (college), but at their age they will manage to do all of that and still play more in one week than most of us will in one month! Not everybody, but a vast majority will... Especially in the winter when going outside isn't that appealing, for obvious reasons. I am not going to prestige (never have, never will) simply because I can tell whenever I play MP I am playing against "sweaty try hards" since 90% of them have clan tags and/or are high level prestige. I say "sweaty try hard" because a lot of them want to be the next E-Sports champions, so they make CoD their full-time "job" and it shows. Public matches are no longer casual in that sense. They are just sparring practice compared to Arena, GB and other formal & ranked competitions. I can't compete with that and don't have to because that is the definition of insanity: Doing the same thing over and over hoping for a different outcome. Happy New Year! Hey Connor, I got a bit confused in the first line you say to Prestige or go play something else, in the last paragraph you say "I am not going to prestige (never have, never will)" yet you keep playing COD. I agree with your logic in the last paragraph so I think I am not going to Prestige at least not for the foreseeable future. I need to get better and I will work on some of the challenges. Ok I give up what is "PTFO"? I don't recall seeing it anywhere before... Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARK BAWGS Posted January 2, 2016 Author Share Posted January 2, 2016 PS4, Benq and Netduma is a great combination. I recommend that you do not prestige yet. Prestige will only get you an extra class slot. I suggest that you play around with weapons, attachments, perks, tacticals, lethals, etc. Find the class setups that work best for you and you are most effective for you. Once you find what works best for you, you can then prestige if you want especially if it is x2 XP weekend. Playing with randoms make it much more difficult. I HIGHLY recommend playing with friends that are good players with mics. Call outs are very important and greatly help. I also recommend watching videos from the below youtubers. https://www.youtube.com/user/Drift0r - He does some great in depth analysis of the various weapons, attachments, etc. https://www.youtube.com/user/TheXclusiveAce - He gives some great tips especially for Domination. He also reviews various maps and lines of sights. Private Match - This is a great place to test various weapons, attachments, etc to see what plays best for you before trying them in a public match. It is also a great place to test wall run spots and to know the maps very well. To help improve my aim and warm up, I often play a private match with bots with health set to 200%. Here are some of my general tips. Take it slow and don't run unless you have teammates with you. Aim around corners Use the mini map to constantly see where your teammates are dying, where they are and aren't Use long barrel on assault rifles (doubles the range) I find that fast mags helps me more than ext mags (fast mags and ext mags are a great combo for Vesper & VMP) Watch the kill cams Party with good players Use lower scorestreaks and gradually work your way up as you are more consistently getting them. Make sure that you use the correct weapon for the map and situation (i.e. shotgun on large map is not good) Scavenger replenishes tacticals, lethals too Make sure that perks match your play style and objective (i.e. flak jacket and tactical mask for small maps like Combine Domination) Most importantly - Make sure that you are having fun. This is great info. I follow Ace and Drift0r religiously as I think they are the best. I do use the drills for aim and reaction time that Ace suggests. When I get a new gun I go into Custom games and try to get a feel for it and what attachments work best. Your 12 points are great and I will head your advice. Thank you so much for taking the time to share this with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JConnor Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Hey Connor, I got a bit confused in the first line you say to Prestige or go play something else, in the last paragraph you say "I am not going to prestige (never have, never will)" yet you keep playing COD. I agree with your logic in the last paragraph so I think I am not going to Prestige at least not for the foreseeable future. I need to get better and I will work on some of the challenges. Ok I give up what is "PTFO"? I don't recall seeing it anywhere before... Thanks again. I just play for the fun of playing... Until I can't stand the WTF? moments and horrible servers even with the Netduma In my opinion, grinding through the initial first levels is fun, but not 55+ (all the way to 1000) more times... Especially since you don't get anything out of it and are set back to square one. If they made it where you keep everything up to that point and can basically hit Max Prestige with what you have (as you unlock everything), I think a lot more people would prestige; at least, a lot more than do already because of the time commitment needed to go to Max Prestige, let alone the first Prestige. The whole "unlock X weapon and then Y attachments" is pure Skinner Box game design and is meant for young players who are unaware of this type of reward system. Game devs & publishers don't trust the game itself to keep people playing without unlocks. This goes for all modern games and has been going on for the last 20 years, or so. This is because most games are not Sandbox-type games that provide players with the tools, defined goals, but let the players achieve them anyway they want. AW took the Skinner Box reward system to a new level with granting OP weapons at various Prestige Levels. Of course, that is just one major design flaw among many... The variants themselves being one of the most ridiculous things to be in a CoD game considering most military forces use uniform weapons, but I digress. The point is Max Prestige is not worth it to me when they gimp me by resetting all my unlocks (save for one of my choosing) because all I am doing is the same damn thing over and over again, but at a disadvantage. That's not real motivation, IMHO. It's insanity PTFO = Play the F-ing Objective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JConnor Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Also, I wanted to ask if you have considered playing a more tactical game mode that doesn't require twitch reflexes... Like Search & Destroy? S&D is slower paced because of the one-life-per-round game mechanic that forces players to THINK about what they and their team are doing instead of just rushing around the map willy-nilly because of no consequences a.k.a. instant respawn in other game modes. I know one big thing that puts people off S&D is the fact if they die early, they have to wait until the round is finished. I understand this concern if their game time is limited. However, if they have a lot of free time I would recommend at least looking into this mode because many of them would probably be decent players without even knowing it. CoD has a reputation for being a twitch/respawn shooter, but more tactical modes do exist for the more cerebral and less-twitchy players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macca65 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Also, I wanted to ask if you have considered playing a more tactical game mode that doesn't require twitch reflexes... Like Search & Destroy? S&D is slower paced because of the one-life-per-round game mechanic that forces players to THINK about what they and their team are doing instead of just rushing around the map willy-nilly because of no consequences a.k.a. instant respawn in other game modes. I know one big thing that puts people off S&D is the fact if they die early, they have to wait until the round is finished. I understand this concern if their game time is limited. However, if they have a lot of free time I would recommend at least looking into this mode because many of them would probably be decent players without even knowing it. CoD has a reputation for being a twitch/respawn shooter, but more tactical modes do exist for the more cerebral and less-twitchy players I have played S+D a few times, but found I spent a LOT of time waiting to respawn I am just a lunatic who runs and guns, so have not developed the patience to be good at this mode But given the good advice from yourself, Dillinger, and UK Wildcats Fan I mean will try and reign in my impulse to run around like a headless chicken increasing people's kdr buts that's me having fun except for the wtf moments and corner campers which in HC you get a lot! Great posts and great advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARK BAWGS Posted January 3, 2016 Author Share Posted January 3, 2016 Also, I wanted to ask if you have considered playing a more tactical game mode that doesn't require twitch reflexes... Like Search & Destroy? S&D is slower paced because of the one-life-per-round game mechanic that forces players to THINK about what they and their team are doing instead of just rushing around the map willy-nilly because of no consequences a.k.a. instant respawn in other game modes. I know one big thing that puts people off S&D is the fact if they die early, they have to wait until the round is finished. I understand this concern if their game time is limited. However, if they have a lot of free time I would recommend at least looking into this mode because many of them would probably be decent players without even knowing it. CoD has a reputation for being a twitch/respawn shooter, but more tactical modes do exist for the more cerebral and less-twitchy players JC, I absolutely agree with you. I only play for fun and that is why I didn't see any advantage in Prestiging and thought perhaps I was missing something. That question has been answered! I remember (at this age that is a good thing) in Ghosts I did Prestige but it didn't seem to be such a painful process. I know that I have lost a bit of my "twitch reflex" speed since Ghosts and your suggestion for S&D is one worth considering. Going back to UK's suggestions I didn't have any "friends" on PS4 as it was knew to me until last month. In the last few weeks I have met some folks who have asked me to join them (we have had several lobbies where there are 6 in our party) they are all in their 30's and 40's so not "try hard" kiddies. Since then my pleasure and fun have improved as has my performance - those shout outs really help; also I can play more strategically than when playing "single". This has made a big difference for me. Some years ago I was in a clan on XBox One and it was very social with all of us in our 40 - 60's, the group was as much social as anything. We did have practice sessions where we did Private matches and worked on strategies sometimes against bots but other times against one another. We had a great leader who often would take weaker players and work one on one to improve their skills. Unfortunately the group still exists but is not very active, some of the key members either quit gaming, moved to other clans, or died off! Really too bad and I miss them. Like you I play for the fun and when the WTF moments become too much I am done! Thanks for taking the time to respond and offer your counsel, it is valued and heeded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JConnor Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 The main reason Prestige in Ghosts wasn't so bad was because... You could Prestige playing Squads against the A.I. It was basically a semi-offline / CO-OP game mode that allowed players to rank up against non-human opponents. IW could have gone one step further and had separate profiles, one for Squads (vs. AI) and one for normal MP (vs. Players).This way, they wouldn't have had to restrict what you could earn in Squads and just allowed people the full "MP" experience offline. Most older players liked Squads because it allowed them the unscripted nature of MP, but without the "try hard" kiddies and connection issues (Squads downloaded a profile of your opponents squad and used the local game assets on your console/PC to play the match, and vice versa when somebody challenged your squad). Me and my friends loved this mode more than normal MP because not only was it "easier" in a lot of respects, but it also allowed more depth since finding the right combo to beat each others Squads required using more than just your trigger finger. Squads also worked across all the DLC maps, too, so that kept the money rolling in during Ghosts life cycle as an added bonus for Activision. When word spread there was no Squads in AW, a lot of older players (and those just not good at MP) quit CoD and never came back. However, this brings me to something else also relevant to this discussion about "how to get better when competing with kids more than half our age" and that is we have to consider who CoD is marketed to and why. Dillinger made a great post on the E-Sports subforum about how E-Sports is used as a year-long marketing campaign for CoD because CoD is marketed to kids (10+). Those of us who grew up alongside the video game industry tend to forget this... Especially when economic reports say the average age of a gamer is 40+... Since our love of games coincided with the rise of the industry in every sense of the word. Unfortunately, we are NOT who big companies like Activision, EA and others market to, primarily. They market to kids who can't even afford a XB1, or PS4 and have to rely on their parents to foot the bill. Long story short, many kids now have the hope, right or wrong, of wanting to be the next E-Sports champion (in any video game) who gets paid to play video games 24/7, and who lives with their friends in giant house away from their parents. What 13-year old wouldn't want to do this? This is why CoD pushes the E-Sports angle more than the YT and Twitch angle because the latter are a limited audience AND because they can control the tournaments, so there is no negative feedback about their products from the pro players. This directly relates to our discussion because as adults... Many of us don't want / need to play games 24/7, nor do we have the illusion we can make a living off of it, either. This is a 180 degree mindset from what Activision and CoD (as well as other games) promote in 2016. If we know this, however, then we can put things in perspective. This is why I said, it's all about your mindset and realizing CoD is just a game. If you aren't having fun playing it, for one reason or another, find something you enjoy because it isn't intended for us in a lot of ways. I like the emergent game play of competing against real people online, but I also know I will never be as fast, nor as "determined" as many of them are when I play. I play for fun and when it becomes obvious I am outmatched, outplayed, etc. by a sweaty 12-year old who is probably raging every time they are killed (I mute all the players in the lobby), I switch to something more enjoyable and cerebral like Fallout 4, or other games that require more thought and allow me to enjoy the game at my own pace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARK BAWGS Posted January 3, 2016 Author Share Posted January 3, 2016 I have played S+D a few times, but found I spent a LOT of time waiting to respawn I am just a lunatic who runs and guns, so have not developed the patience to be good at this mode But given the good advice from yourself, Dillinger, and UK Wildcats Fan I mean will try and reign in my impulse to run around like a headless chicken increasing people's kdr buts that's me having fun except for the wtf moments and corner campers which in HC you get a lot! Great posts and great advice Sorry Macca, I saw the Boxer next to JC's quote and mistook it as his picture. Just want to echo my comments in the JC post. PS - I just noticed your boxer pic; love it. My wife and I had a boxer for 10.5 years and loved him so very much, we missed him after he left us. A few years ago we released his ashes in the park he loved to run in. I wanted another one but the Pug seemed like a better choice in my small condo and at my age. Enjoy him, what is his name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macca65 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Sorry Macca, I saw the Boxer next to JC's quote and mistook it as his picture. Just want to echo my comments in the JC post. PS - I just noticed your boxer pic; love it. My wife and I had a boxer for 10.5 years and loved him so very much, we missed him after he left us. A few years ago we released his ashes in the park he loved to run in. I wanted another one but the Pug seemed like a better choice in my small condo and at my age. Enjoy him, what is his name? His name is Humfrey, we have only had him since early December from a boxer rescue facility. He is about 18 months old so the vet says, as he was a stray. We used to have a Pug, but she died two years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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