Ah ok, I have seen that mentioned in a few videos i've watched on this topic but it sounded like more of a built in service, rather than a means of installing your chosen vpn. Good to know i've been on the right track for that at some point though, thank you. My usual ping sits between 17 and 20ms on average with some days sitting at around 37ms (not sure why), it is largely 17ms though. I'm using CloudFlare DNS which was the slightly quicker option between that and google, showing 7ms ping rather than googles 8ms, when put into command prompt. I've also switched ISP's recently, after asking you a similar question a while ago, you suggested my old ISP might be using CG NAT and you were correct about that.