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Add an icon for Access Point in the device manager device type and once selected the devices traversing the AP should be in a separate branch off the AP in the device manager view.

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The AP is usually undetectable by the router as it just passes through the traffic, it also can't tell what devices are connected to it as it just appears like they're connected direct to the router

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Fraser, with the recent R3 wifi incident I had, I decided to try out some APs to help offload some of the Wifi from the R3 or at least use the AP for range and connect devices that are further from the router such as security cameras outside. I want the new one coming to not have to stress its wifi capabilities.

I tried some unfamiliar brand, Ingabis, as a Wifi 6 range extender set into AP mode wired to the last LAN port on the R3.
Internet -> modem (Surfboard arris) -> R3 -> AP -> wifi devices needing the range.

Like discussed here, the AP is showing as wired, and any Wifi device connected to it then shows up as Wired on the R3 UI in Device Manager. So my iPhone 14 connected to the AP shows as wired via ethernet in the UI - It would be neat if we can force it on the Device Tree, but i don't mind if not.

The AP i got is good but could be better for the range I was looking at. I then bought a Eero 6e Pro Amazon Router to use strictly as an AP wired to the R3. This has a 6GHz band on top of the 2.4 and 5. The Eero unfortunately doesn't allow you to separate the wifi bands, so I can only use one SSID and it flips between them what feels seamlessly. my iPhone in the same room gets around 600Mbps when connected to the Eero via wifi.

Eero is set to bridge mode. It shows up as its own device on the R3 and shows my iPhone connected as wired to the R3 (since it's connected to the Eero). I understand that the AP will do this on the R3 UI (and it'd be great if we could change it somehow in the future).

What shocked me is that I connected my work laptop via Wifi to the Eero - laptop indicates it's on the 6GHz band, but my laptop does not show up as wired or wireless on the R3 UI. It's nowhere to be seen in the Device Manager tree. If I check network activity, the laptop is there and shows active usage. So that makes sense there. It shows up on the Eero app, and i have 0 connection issues on my laptop now via AP (so far at least).

Is there a reason the R3 isn't recognizing my work laptop in the device manager as it's connected to the 6GHz band via the AP? I checked other devices in the tree, and none match to the laptop (like it's not showing up under another name/IP). Does the R3 somehow not recognize if a device is connected to a 6GHz band on an AP?

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41 minutes ago, V1k1 said:

Is there a reason the R3 isn't recognizing my work laptop in the device manager as it's connected to the 6GHz band via the AP? I checked other devices in the tree, and none match to the laptop (like it's not showing up under another name/IP). Does the R3 somehow not recognize if a device is connected to a 6GHz band on an AP?

Yes that's what I believe is the case, when connected to an AP, for all intents and purposes the R3 sees the device as connected to the R3 itself. As the R3 doesn't have 6GHz and thus has no way to recognize that kind of connection it doesn't display it, though of course technically the Eero gets the internet and passes it on to the laptop so it will have internet through the R3 it will just appear as an offline device.

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Figured it was due to the 6ghz band. Is there any way to get the r3 to see this in its current state? I mean it technically is working/connected.

or can this be added in firmware to recognize it to be online?

I guess my concern is that if active devices using the 6ghz band are “offline” according to the r3, will they not receive Smartboost settings or traffic prioritization rules?
Network activities show the laptop traffic, so will the R3 still prioritize work from home for my laptop or no because it’s “offline”?

EDIT: Checked Smartboost and see my work laptop is showing as online, so I assume any rules I set to this device, it should still work. It may only be in the Device Manager Tree that this does not show up in.

also, does anyone or the netduma team know of an AP that works really well with their software/R3? any luck with one product over another?

 

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I doubt it, having the router specifically determine the connection method behind APs is difficult as is as they appear to be connected via ethernet. They will still work even showing offline as far as I am aware

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12 hours ago, Netduma Fraser said:

I doubt it, having the router specifically determine the connection method behind APs is difficult as is as they appear to be connected via ethernet. They will still work even showing offline as far as I am aware

Thank you. Do you know any APs / products that work well with the R3 and dumaOS to handle higher wifi speeds and range?

I wonder if a certain brand or model works very well with the R3 over another brand that may lack compatibility or features.

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On 4/2/2025 at 3:59 AM, V1k1 said:

Thank you. Do you know any APs / products that work well with the R3 and dumaOS to handle higher wifi speeds and range?

I wonder if a certain brand or model works very well with the R3 over another brand that may lack compatibility or features.

We don't really have any recommendations for third party equipment but any should work well

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