Configuration advices

[fds]

5 hours ago, Netduma Fraser said:

Right okay that's interesting, thanks, keep us posted on your progress

Hi Fraser, could you tell me how I have to make the connection from R3 to the router that is connected to the ONT. I think I could figure out the system, but if you could speed up the process with the proper configuration, it would be a great help.

[Netduma Fraser]

ONT > WAN Port on other router. That router handling PPPoE/VLAN

LAN port on other router > WAN port on R3. R3 set to DHCP

[fds]

The Asus router, what configuration need, i have a QoS, DMZ on ps5 ip, full cone nat... all of this its need to remove or hold?

Other questions, no need put DMZ  on the IP ON LAN  IP R3??, This configuration do not bring me a Double NAT???

[fds]

17 minutes ago, fds said:

The Asus router, what configuration need, i have a QoS, DMZ on ps5 ip, full cone nat... all of this its need to remove or hold?

Other questions, no need put DMZ  on the IP ON LAN  IP R3??, This configuration do not bring me a Double NAT???

Other is Upnp, where its nit to be configured, both o one of them??

[Netduma Fraser]

You can put the R3 in the Asus router DMZ but other than that you don't need to change anything, that will prevent a double NAT. 

Setting the DMZ on the R3 itself shouldn't be needed but you can do that if it struggles to get an Open NAT.

[fds]

Ok, thanks for the support. Im testing right now. Give me som tips to understand how works the R3 options.

To do the bufferbloat test, and try to get the less buferbloat and high valoration. Congestion control and ping optimizer, work at the same time, are diferent functions or both, i mean, its need to apply this 2 options, or only the bars of control congestin work at this case??

[fds]

1 minute ago, fds said:

Bien, gracias por el apoyo. Estoy probando ahora mismo. Dame consejos som para entender cómo funciona las opciones R3.

Para hacer la prueba de bufferbloat, y tratar de obtener el menos buferbloat y alta valoración. Control de congestión y optimizador de ping, funcionan al mismo tiempo, son funciones diferentes o ambas, quiero decir, su necesidad de aplicar estas 2 opciones, o sólo las barras de control congestionina funcionan en este caso??

What is the reason that any time i go to bars of control congestion they change at the default valors, its normal?? tihs cause me a impresion that not works.

[Netduma Fraser]

Ping Optimizer is a function that tests your line with different Congestion Control percentages to see which works best and then you can choose to apply it's recommended percentages to Congestion Control or not. It's not always 100% accurate (this is being re-written for one of the next versions so will be better) and so people chose to experiment with it manually to fine what works best. What do you mean you go to it and it changes at the default values?

[fds]

30 minutes ago, Netduma Fraser said:

Ping Optimizer is a function that tests your line with different Congestion Control percentages to see which works best and then you can choose to apply it's recommended percentages to Congestion Control or not. It's not always 100% accurate (this is being re-written for one of the next versions so will be better) and so people chose to experiment with it manually to fine what works best. What do you mean you go to it and it changes at the default values?

I mean, default percentages shows 100-100, if i change it to 80-65 (fox example) after a few games, when i click on the bars options they shows 100-100- again. This confuse me about if they are working with the percentages a was apply or not.

 

Another question is, if i wont to use control congestion, and test whitout this option,  there are con on/off function, this is so confused to understand if R3 is working whith control congest or not. Finally, i dont now what mode i was working.

By the moment, im triying to fine the DHCP connection to other router, think i get some kind of double Nat, because when im playing games feeling like need 2 times proccces.

If the R3 will improve the system to connect ad manegament VLAN connection this would be the best option in my case, unless i find the right set to DHCP works fine.

 

[fds]

10 minutes ago, fds said:

Quiero decir, los porcentajes por defecto muestran 100-100, si lo cambio a 80-65 (ejemplo de zo) después de unos pocos juegos, cuando hago clic en las opciones de barras que muestran 100-100- de nuevo. Esto me confunde si están trabajando con los porcentajes a que se aplicó o no.

 

Otra pregunta es, si consiste para usar la congestión de control, y probar la opción, hay una función de estafa de esta opción, esto está tan confuso para entender si R3 está trabajando congestiono de control jith o no. Finalmente, ahora no de qué modo estaba trabajando.

Por el momento, intrusando para multar la conexión DHCP con otro router, piensa que tengo algún tipo de Nat doble, porque cuando te juegas sintiendo que necesitas 2 veces la proccces.

Si el R3 mejorará el sistema para conectar la conexión VLAN ad manegament esto sería la mejor opción en mi caso, a menos que encuentre el conjunto correcto a DHCP funciona bien.

 

My router have this options, if turn off Nat in the other router, the R3 cna,t get internet?? i try to find the correct options to connect without 2nat. But needs help of someone familiar with these settings

[Netduma Fraser]

All you need to do is put the R3 in the DMZ on the Asus - you don't need to change any other settings regarding this for NAT.

If you disable SmartBOOST fully that will disable Congestion Control fully, 100% is also disabled. Use the mode Always and see if it works better.

[fds]

2 hours ago, Netduma Fraser said:

All you need to do is put the R3 in the DMZ on the Asus - you don't need to change any other settings regarding this for NAT.

If you disable SmartBOOST fully that will disable Congestion Control fully, 100% is also disabled. Use the mode Always and see if it works better.

Thanks for the support.

[fds]

Hi Fraser, my router has these operating options, I followed the steps to connect R3 to it by DHCP while the Asus is in router mode. Unfortunately, the feeling when playing through this connection has been disappointing, as I said, there must be some kind of 2Nat, or similar, but the actions in the turns and passes feel quite delayed, resulting imperceptible any benefit I can get with ping assist or congestion control of R3. On the other hand, pingplotter tests are much more satisfactory with this method, which shows that there is some problem with the direct Vlan connection (do you think it will be possible for the team to work on improving this).

On the other hand, I wanted to know if you think that, putting the Asus in another mode of the exposed ones, would be more functional, and have connection via DHCP ( to continue looking for options ).

Yesterday I ended up playing for quite a while connected via Vlan and testing in some games with HVPN, in general it is the connection method where I can see the R3 options working.
Here are a few questions.
- If I want to play using only the PC for browsing and no other devices, do you think it is advisable to use some kind of prioritization and congestion control, or just ping assit is better in my case?

-The other thing is that, I don't know if it's because of using contorl congest or why, but at the end of the night it happened again that suddenly, it started to appear quite a lot of latency in the game and ended up kicking me out of the game server, not the plasytation network, just the FC24 game. And I wasn't playing via HVPN at this moment, only with congestion control and ping assist. This is solved with reset, but I shouldn't get this, at least the impression it always causes is that I'm doing something wrong, and it's quite cumbersome.

-I also notice in many matches that, when connecting to my best serv ( EA has a pretty solid system to connect to your server IP ) in this case Spain serv, ping assist can't work because it is not possible to ping the host. it happens 30-40% of matches.

 

[fds]

1 hour ago, fds said:

Hi Fraser, my router has these operating options, I followed the steps to connect R3 to it by DHCP while the Asus is in router mode. Unfortunately, the feeling when playing through this connection has been disappointing, as I said, there must be some kind of 2Nat, or similar, but the actions in the turns and passes feel quite delayed, resulting imperceptible any benefit I can get with ping assist or congestion control of R3. On the other hand, pingplotter tests are much more satisfactory with this method, which shows that there is some problem with the direct Vlan connection (do you think it will be possible for the team to work on improving this).

On the other hand, I wanted to know if you think that, putting the Asus in another mode of the exposed ones, would be more functional, and have connection via DHCP ( to continue looking for options ).

Yesterday I ended up playing for quite a while connected via Vlan and testing in some games with HVPN, in general it is the connection method where I can see the R3 options working.
Here are a few questions.
- If I want to play using only the PC for browsing and no other devices, do you think it is advisable to use some kind of prioritization and congestion control, or just ping assit is better in my case?

-The other thing is that, I don't know if it's because of using contorl congest or why, but at the end of the night it happened again that suddenly, it started to appear quite a lot of latency in the game and ended up kicking me out of the game server, not the plasytation network, just the FC24 game. And I wasn't playing via HVPN at this moment, only with congestion control and ping assist. This is solved with reset, but I shouldn't get this, at least the impression it always causes is that I'm doing something wrong, and it's quite cumbersome.

-I also notice in many matches that, when connecting to my best serv ( EA has a pretty solid system to connect to your server IP ) in this case Spain serv, ping assist can't work because it is not possible to ping the host. it happens 30-40% of matches.

 

Another question

- By default, the Asus use MTU valor on 1492, on ps5 i set this in automatic. In R3 are option to change this valour, but aren,t any on this, what is the default MTU that use R3 ( or dont use any?)

By the way, what is the best setting aobout MTU, according my conexion type and for use on PS5??

[fds]

4 hours ago, fds said:

Another question

- By default, the Asus use MTU valor on 1492, on ps5 i set this in automatic. In R3 are option to change this valour, but aren,t any on this, what is the default MTU that use R3 ( or dont use any?)

By the way, what is the best setting aobout MTU, according my conexion type and for use on PS5??

This is i mean in up file. What means this picture?? The server i conect is Spain but in this case, R3cant ping him, this happens in 30-40% of matches, obviuslly i thing R3 cnt apply any option in this case? I have in consideration thats...during the season game its a possible cause th R3 finally works horrible pass 3-4 hours or less, because the R3 try to correct work and finally ( in my sensations) begin a kind off high latency, consecuence of this situations. Its only my opinion. By the moment im using .236 firm.

[Netduma Fraser]

All you need to do on the Asus is enter the R3 into it's DMZ then forget about any other settings on the Asus, this should open the NAT for you. If it doesn't you can then put your PlayStation in the DMZ on the R3. Are you having trouble locating the DMZ on both routers or struggling to activate them?

The team can look into VLAN yes but have you tried the latest Early Access firmware? Some changes there may improve your experience.

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If I want to play using only the PC for browsing and no other devices, do you think it is advisable to use some kind of prioritization and congestion control, or just ping assit is better in my case?

Congestion Control wouldn't be as needed in this situation so you could disable it if you want to but still generally a good idea to keep it enabled.

Do you see anything blocked on the map when you get kicked from the game? Does the game have a server/host migration feature? 

Ping Assist is a method of filtering servers - is this what you're referring to? Looks like you may be referring to Steady Ping and it not being able to stabilize the ping when it can't ping the server? As you mentioned it can't ping every server unfortunately but in some cases it can still stabilize the ping when the server doesn't show a ping reading.

Ignore MTU it will not make any difference.

[fds]

2 hours ago, Netduma Fraser said:

ps5Todo lo que necesitas hacer en el Asus es entrar en el R3 en su DMZ y luego olvidar cualquier otra configuración en el Asus, esto debería abrir el NAT para ti. Si no lo hace, entonces puedes poner tu PlayStation en la DMZ en el R3. Estás teniendo problemas para localizar la DMZ en ambos routers o luchando para activarlos?

El equipo puede mirar a VLAN sí, pero, has probado el último firmware de Acceso Tempránculo? Algunos cambios allí pueden mejorar su experiencia.

Congestión Control no sería tan necesario en esta situación por lo que podría desactivarlo si quieres, pero en general una buena idea para mantenerlo habilitado.

Ves algo bloqueado en el mapa cuando te patean del juego? El juego tiene una función de migración de servidor/host?

Ping Assist es un método de filtrar servidores - es esto a lo que se refiere? Parece que te refieres a Steady Ping y no es capaz de estabilizar el ping cuando no puede ping el servidor? Como usted mencionó no puede ping cada servidor desafortunadamente, pero en algunos casos todavía puede estabilizar el ping cuando el servidor no muestra una lectura de ping.

Ignora MTU que no hará ninguna diferencia.

- Haven,t any problem about both DMZ, in fact, there apply on both routers, in Asus>Dmz>R3 and R3>DMZ>PS5. This brings the best sensation whlie playing. You think this is not correct and cause any prblem, in the same direction, in Asus apply an option Nat server, wich send the ports to R3 IP, thats its the best configuratión DHCP via i can get.

.Tomorrow try to test with de last early acces and vlan and compare both configurations results at play.

-Ok, MTU in R3 i ignores this.

-Yes i mean a steady ping, cant ping in many servers.

Thanks for support.

[Netduma Fraser]

DMZ passes all traffic through to the specified device so how it is set is fine for those purposes. Keep us posted!