The Honest Tiger
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On 6/29/2025 at 7:51 PM, The Honest Tiger said:
I know, you'd think it'd be smart enough to choose one over the other and let's not celebrate yet, I need to test this theory.
Just a quick update, seems I was right in the beginning, there was stability issues at streamlabs. Dual output seemed fine tonight but I'll get back to you maybe Friday to check.
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18 minutes ago, Netduma Fraser said:
Ah so it's trying to overlap itself, that's crazy it would even allow that to happen, well done on figuring it out!
I know, you'd think it'd be smart enough to choose one over the other and let's not celebrate yet, I need to test this theory.
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3 minutes ago, Netduma Fraser said:
That's definitely a possibility, in that case, try streaming one using streamlabs and one using OBS and see if it works without issue
My word I think I figured it out, basically, my youtube stream is using it's own stream key and url so my pc is trying to stream to youtube directly and via streamlabs at the same time.
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23 hours ago, Netduma Fraser said:
Okay so we can rule out the router then, it'll either be the VM hub, the line or your streaming settings as your speeds are perfectly capable of dual streaming
Personally I think it might be the streamlabs servers. The way it works is rather than overloading my pc by it handling the data to two different platforms, the data is sent to the streamlabs servers which then distributes it to the platforms.
By doing solo platforms, I'm streaming directly to the servers myself rather than through streamlabs via dual output.
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7 hours ago, Netduma Fraser said:
Is that with NAT set to Open or trying connected direct to the VM?
PC wired to VM as you suggested.
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5 hours ago, Netduma Fraser said:
Do the IPs match?
In WAN Settings on the XR set NAT to Open just to rule out any port issues.
If it's still not working well I'd suggest you try dual streaming with the PC directly connected to the VM (you'd have to disable the DMZ) and see if you get the same issues
Well I can stream to tiktok but youtube just buffers like crazy now.
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21 minutes ago, Netduma Fraser said:
Do the IPs match?
In WAN Settings on the XR set NAT to Open just to rule out any port issues.
If it's still not working well I'd suggest you try dual streaming with the PC directly connected to the VM (you'd have to disable the DMZ) and see if you get the same issues
Yeah my PC has a reserved IP as do all the devices and yeah I put that to open and I'll give that a try.
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9 minutes ago, Netduma Fraser said:
It's very bizarre it's not prioritizing with those rules. Check the IP on the PC itself then check the Device Manager on the router for the device you think it is, do the IPs match?
Did you switch the VM hub to router mode and put the XR in its DMZ?
Have you made any other settings changes for the PC such as putting it in the DMZ on the XR, setting Traffic Controller rules etc?
Yeah, the hub is in router mode with the router in DMZ, apart from that, I've made no other changes other than the ones you suggested but I undid when it didn't work.
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11 minutes ago, Netduma Fraser said:
So no LED lighting up for the rules? Can you provide a screenshot of the rules just so I can double check please.
When removed that makes more sense, you're gaming packets are getting queued behind the stream
So I just started a stream, the LED showed for like 10 seconds then stopped for the gaming console rule but nothing for the rule 443 rule.
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2 minutes ago, Netduma Fraser said:
So no LED lighting up for the rules? Can you provide a screenshot of the rules just so I can double check please.
When removed that makes more sense, you're gaming packets are getting queued behind the stream
Nothing, no packets sent or received and I know how to set up the rules... auto congestion control, PC traffic prioritization set up as a games console and rule 443 set up for both source and end point but no LED.
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18 hours ago, Netduma Fraser said:
Normal for ethernet, you can set apply to WAN as well, if your ISP supports it then it may provide a benefit
So, an interesting development that I don't believe should have happened. With congestion set to auto and the 443 and console rules set, Traffic Prioritization was not activating but I managed a 3 hour stream with no issues. However, when I switch congestion to Always and removed those rules, I literally couldn't connect to any sort of server at all.
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2 minutes ago, Netduma Fraser said:
Yes & not port 1 just port 443 source & destination for the same PC
What about the wireless setting? Also, am I applying this to WAN?
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1 hour ago, Netduma Fraser said:
Don't do every port because that could actually make it worse, it also bypasses Congestion Control completely.
- Do it with the 2 rules I mentioned and Congestion Control set to Auto
- Remove the rules completely and set Congestion Control to Always
See if it works better one of these ways
So I'm setting my PC up with the Games Console option then adding another rule for port 1 to 443 for source and 443 for destination?
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4 hours ago, Netduma Fraser said:
By that do you mean streaming is working to both with no packet loss?
Add the device with the Games Console service to Traffic Prioritization and also add another rule for port 443 for the device, remove any other rules you've made. If it's not being prioritized then Congestion Control also isn't being activated with it set to Auto so you can set that to Always and check again or make the rules to get it prioritizing so Congestion Control kicks in when streaming.
Pretty much yeah but the problem just happened again now during stream with the settings you told me to do a few days ago with 20000kbps and I made a rule were every port is opened for my pc and it was active last night and even that didn't work. How can youtube not be receiving enough video for smooth streaming at 20000kbps??
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2 hours ago, Netduma Fraser said:
That's H.264 then I believe, in which case set the bitrate to 20000 then please and see how you go with that. This could be more of a fine tuning of the streaming settings rather than a router issue. Lots of data being sent and received but is it showing the red light to indicate the prioritization is active?
Well after 2 hours, the only message I'm getting is from youtube asking me to use the recommended 6500 kbps and now that you mention it, no, no data has been sent or recevied.
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6 hours ago, Netduma Fraser said:
- Are you using H.264 or HEVC?
- Do you have Enforce streaming service bitrate limits enabled?
- You mentioned you're now using Auto for Congestion Control but what percentages are the download/upload set to?
- When streaming, is Traffic Prioritization actually triggerring?
- I still think switching to the DMZ option may help
I'm using my graphics card and all the settings are default apart from the bitrate and 70% congestion on both and yeah, loads of data being sent and received and finally, what exactly am I putting into DMZ?
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4 minutes ago, Netduma Fraser said:
What platforms are you streaming to and in what resolution/FPS? Anything different between when you started streaming vs 3 hours later - e.g. more people in your home using the internet, hitting general peak time etc?
youtube and tiktok, 1920x1080 for youtube and 1080x1920 for tiktok both at 30fps and there is literally no difference between time starting and 3 hours later.
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On 6/22/2025 at 12:03 AM, Netduma Fraser said:
Good to hear, thanks for the update!
Update
So I thought I found the fix when I was using the 2.5gig port on my hub even though I'm not on the package providing that port so I connected the router to a 1gig port which fixed the no internet issue. I then also read that when multi streaming using streamlabs, their servers take the single data then spread it out to the platforms meaning in my case I have to send out double the data so I put my bit rate to 16000. 3 hours of smooth streaming until it wasn't.
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4 hours ago, Netduma Fraser said:
That doesn't really make any sense - take the VM out of modem mode, set the XR with a static/reserved IP on the VM, then set that in the DMZ - that might resolve it anyway as I find sometimes the modem mode implementation isn't as good as it should be and the DMZ works better. Then reboot the XR, verify you still get internet, check to see if you get the same issue, if you do then disable DHCP on the XR again and check
Okay so I was able to stream tonight with no issues, hub in modem mode, I used the 1gig port instead of the 2.5gig on the hub. Router is being used as the HDCP and I turned off streaming to tiktok so I only streamed to youtube tonight.
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55 minutes ago, Netduma Fraser said:
The router wasn't getting internet or the devices weren't? Disabling DHCP wouldn't affect the router getting internet but it would affect devices if they weren't given a reserved IP.
DHCP hands out IPs to devices so with this disabled no devices get an IP address and therefore no internet so it's a must that they have a static/reserved IP set before disabling DHCP. Devices after that that you want to connect you'd need to set a static IP on the device itself first, then when connected you can set it on the router.
The router itself wasn't getting the internet connection but as soon as I reactivated DHCP and restarted the router and hub, the internet connection was re-established.
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54 minutes ago, Netduma Fraser said:
Ah yes that's right, in that case, double check you have reserved IPs for all devices then disable DHCP entirely, reboot etc then monitor please
Okay so after reserving an IP for all devices and disabling DHCP and rebooting, my router wasn't getting any internet connection at all. Turned DHCP back on and the connection is restored.
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21 minutes ago, Netduma Fraser said:
All your devices? Extend the lease to 10000 minutes so it gets rid of it in the logs and then grab them again when it happens please.
Could you provide more stats on the dropped frames/bitrate you normally get and what you're getting when it's happens?
There is no option to extend the lease and I have it set to the standard 6000 kbps and every now and then it declines to 0 then spikes back to 6000 and repeats this pattern. I honestly think the HDCP has a problem on my router.
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4 minutes ago, Netduma Fraser said:
Set your devices to have a reserved IP address in DHCP, it's quite quick to do, then reboot the router from the interface, wait 4 minutes before accessing then see if it continues
I already have and it still does it.
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10 minutes ago, Netduma Fraser said:
What time was it happening so I can match it to the logs?
Did you setup Congestion Control & Traffic Prioritization?
Literally every 4 minutes, you can see where it says "DHCP Lease" and congestion control is at auto and traffic prioritization is set to my PC for streaming.
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Dropped frames and low bitrate during streams
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Well an entire week without any issues so looks like it all came down to stability issues on streamlab's side. Thank you for the support though Fraser, hopefully you won't have to hear from me in the distant future.