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My firmware is currently up to date.

I pay for 100 down with spectrum and my netduma speeds on computer/ps4 hard wired are always around 50/5

I have a Technicolor tc8717t modem in bridge mode connected with a short Ethernet to my netduma.

 

For the past few years I have been dealing with my bullets hardly registering into opponents or me getting seen first with not much time to react in COD. I don't have much or no problems at all with lag. I have been through a lot of routers and modems trying to fix this problem. The first couple days with the netduma I had little to no problems at all. I've had a netduma for over a year now and have tried all types of settings from CC and device prioritization, Pre-emptive vs reactive. One thing may seem better than the other but it all stays inconsistent. I noticed that so far the best settings for me is when I factory reset my router and leave all the settings default but I'm still getting obliterated by my opponents. I've had spectrum come over to check the connection levels and the splitters and all that to be sure that wasn't causing the issue. I play competitive cod and even sometimes in tournaments for money but my connection is just unbearable. About 4 years ago I never had much problems with bullet reg and I still live in the same place.

 

I'm completely lost at this point and I hope someone has some type of solutions for this. Sorry for such a long post but thank you for your time!

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Forgot to mention that I've tried the geo-filter and ping assist. Tried unticking deep packet processing and turbo mode. Used port forwarding and upnp. I've went through and tried all the settings with different combinations hundreds of times! Also I only share this netduma with my mom and she barely uses the internet so I continue to have problems even if nobody else is using it.

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Hey, welcome to the forum!

 

Firstly for your speeds please double check you have everything set like this:

  • Reactive Algorithm
  • 100% anti-flood
  • Share excess enabled
  • Reset device prioritisation & apply
  • Disable IPv6 in WAN, LAN & misc
  • Disable deep packet in misc
  • Ensure the ethernet cables you're using connecting the R1 to hub & R1 to PC are Cat5e+/can handle your speeds.
  • Do a wired speed test from a PC

I can't advise on hit detection as that is not lag per se and nothing to do with the Duma if you're getting a low ping. Provide the screenshots asked for here and I can best advise on your settings.

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the 4th and 5th pictures are half and half of the congestion control page and hyper traffic. i pay for 100 down and around 10 up. not specifically sure about the up but its around there. i am wired thru to my ps4 but my speeds are a tad bit lower for my ps4. my ping shows up great but i can assure you i get bad spikes/ bufferbloat.

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To start with, are you sure that nameless device is even your console? Have you checked that it's IP on device manager matches up with the IP on console network settings? If so I would rename it. 

 

You shouldn't be trying to filter/hyper traffic a single port. Use the Playstation Network service - I'd be surprised if you were filtering/prioritising anything at all the way its currently setup. 

 

Strict mode on Geo-filter, PA 0. When gaming or when there is heavy use of the internet use 70/70 anti-flood as well.

 

Don't worry about console speed test it is inaccurate and it even says that. Gaming doesn't use much bandwidth either so you have plenty.

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Yes the nameless device is my PS4 it's because I just had factory reset the router. Ohh i did click on psn but I read somewhere to put in 3074 as the port number I'll go delete and won't mess with advanced. I've never tried strict mode thanks for the info I'll get back to you if anything else!

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Nothing I try seems to fix it. I guess it's just my area idk it's so frustrating when I'm playing people I know I'm better than but they joke me. Even when I host I get joked at times. I go to my friends house less than a mile away and I can actually shoot back.

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Run Pingplotter on your line. Check for jitter, lag and red lines. If your connection looks like a sawtooth and ping consistently varies by more than 10ms and frequently spikes to 60+ms, it's probably your ISP.

 

Alternately, if you're using wireless for gaming...don't, just don't...that can explain rough pings and slow speeds due to environmental noise and/or weak signals. Wire up the console over ethernet. At worst, use ethernet over power adapters. Ensure all ethernet cables are seated correctly in all devices. 

 

On the R1, these are the settings I use -

 

Tick the Turbo Mode box in Settings > Miscellaneous, that instantly fixed a similar problem with my speed. Run speed tests over ethernet, not wireless.

 

Add the PS4 to Hyper-traffic in Congestion Control. Don't mess with Upload / Download Prioritisation, just tick the Share Excess box. And make sure Up / Down is set to 100% / 100% when testing speeds.

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its spectrum their internet is trash

I'll agree with that,Spectrum is not good at all.

 

Having cable and trying to game is bad enough but Spectrum is at another level of bad.

 

And yes I also have it... :angry:

 

But all your diagnostics look good.As said above run PP at peak times in your area for an hour or so and see what the results are might very well be your ISP as Spectrum is notorious for over selling which leads to severe node overload, which I also have.

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like i said many times their internet is consistent on speed thats about it but i never had issues when black ops  was out with charter 

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Did you ever get this sorted ? I have charter and have the same issue except here we only have 60/5

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Never come on here to ask Netgear employees for help. They will offer some assistance, but their job is to defend their products. Let me tell you the truth here, it's not your connection or anything going on on your side of things. It's the call of duty servers that are screwing you over. The developers purposely place artificial lag into the game to screw over the people who are good in the game or have blazing fast internet. I have 1000 down and 40 up and a 9 ping to my closest server. I'm always seconds behind all of my enemies. This problem didn't exist before MW3. Having the best connection is actually crippling yourself. Stop that right now. These people always tell you to play on a wired connection over a wifi one are setting you up for failure. Their advice is correct if COD wasn't so damn rigged with nonsense. I've had every top end device there is on the market and none of it helped. If i had to count how much money I spent on products that eventually went back, you would call me a dumbass. None of these routers, monitors, and tricks help you in your cause. COD developers want people "sucky" people to remain on their game. If Jim with a high end internet connection go ramming over people with below average internet which happens to be the main consumers, the developers are going to cater to Timmy with no thumbs to compensate. If you are a long time call of duty players, do you remember host advantage? Back in the older cods before mw3, having host was the best thing ever. Then post MW3, having host was the worst thing ever. I hated getting host in black ops 2 because I knew what it meant. Shoot first die first. Do you want to know what I did to alleviate some of the rigged lag compensation? I purposely put my nat on STRICT. 

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Strict NAT doesn't help you as it essentially doesn't change your latency.

 

The game balances latency across the lobby so you're right that the server gives you a disadvantage whenever your connection is too good compared to the rest of the lobby. This is not only hitdetection, but it also manipulates player positions, like extrapolating their position forward etc.

 

On host advantage after MW3, the game does the same here. It gives you artificial latency to eliminate the host advantage, it takes the average latency in the lobby and adds that. 

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13 hours ago, Bert said:

Strict NAT doesn't help you as it essentially doesn't change your latency.

 

The game balances latency across the lobby so you're right that the server gives you a disadvantage whenever your connection is too good compared to the rest of the lobby. This is not only hitdetection, but it also manipulates player positions, like extrapolating their position forward etc.

 

On host advantage after MW3, the game does the same here. It gives you artificial latency to eliminate the host advantage, it takes the average latency in the lobby and adds that. 

I have read on reddit years back on debate on developers adding artificial lag to the game to give poor internet users upper advantage, never thought it was a real thing.

This explains random madness I get in gulag and on Wazone, for an example when clearly I shot first but die first and he kills me with one shot. Then on the kill cam I emptied a whole magazine clip on him none of the bullets hits him but on his screen he lands all shots on me multiple shots. But during gun fight he just shots one or two bullets and I die.

Going forward how do myself and others with good internet and close to decent servers have the upper hand? Netduma settings etc pls I'm feedback I'm willing to try anything at this point thanks.

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On 6/26/2020 at 8:11 PM, Seye said:

I have read on reddit years back on debate on developers adding artificial lag to the game to give poor internet users upper advantage, never thought it was a real thing.

This explains random madness I get in gulag and on Wazone, for an example when clearly I shot first but die first and he kills me with one shot. Then on the kill cam I emptied a whole magazine clip on him none of the bullets hits him but on his screen he lands all shots on me multiple shots. But during gun fight he just shots one or two bullets and I die.

Going forward how do myself and others with good internet and close to decent servers have the upper hand? Netduma settings etc pls I'm feedback I'm willing to try anything at this point thanks.

 

To be honest, I believe the best way to do it, is to 'nerf' your internet connection.

I have a friend who plays Apex Legends, he's top 5% in skill (we both are). He lives in really far away (Africa) and plays on London/Europe servers, and he's told me a good day for him is '200ms ping',. A GOOD DAY. He also only plays on less then 10MB Up and 1 Down. And he DOMINATES. I'm talking about 10 - 15 wins a game, easily geting over 2k damage, sometimes breaking 3k damage.

I'm on 35MB Up, 10 Down. I live 1 hour from London, my ping to London is 20ms. I get destroyed every single game.  Sure I do good, and I win also, but I'm getting shot behind corners, enemies destroy me 'instantly', like I have no time to react, yet my buddy with 200ms has all the time in the world to react?

So on  Netduma, I've been tweaking my internet so I only get 1MB up and 1MB down. And honestly, I feel like the game is 'compensating' for me, it's giving me a slight advantage because my speed is worse than majority in the lobby.

Try it yourself, nerf your connection via Netduma settings so you're on less than 1MB speed, and try it out for a few days.

 

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2 hours ago, thisisreallife said:

 

To be honest, I believe the best way to do it, is to 'nerf' your internet connection.

I have a friend who plays Apex Legends, he's top 5% in skill (we both are). He lives in really far away (Africa) and plays on London/Europe servers, and he's told me a good day for him is '200ms ping',. A GOOD DAY. He also only plays on less then 10MB Up and 1 Down. And he DOMINATES. I'm talking about 10 - 15 wins a game, easily geting over 2k damage, sometimes breaking 3k damage.

I'm on 35MB Up, 10 Down. I live 1 hour from London, my ping to London is 20ms. I get destroyed every single game.  Sure I do good, and I win also, but I'm getting shot behind corners, enemies destroy me 'instantly', like I have no time to react, yet my buddy with 200ms has all the time in the world to react?

So on  Netduma, I've been tweaking my internet so I only get 1MB up and 1MB down. And honestly, I feel like the game is 'compensating' for me, it's giving me a slight advantage because my speed is worse than majority in the lobby.

Try it yourself, nerf your connection via Netduma settings so you're on less than 1MB speed, and try it out for a few days.

 

Been there, tried it. I get massive ping spikes when I nerf my connection that low.

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6 hours ago, thisisreallife said:

 

To be honest, I believe the best way to do it, is to 'nerf' your internet connection.

I have a friend who plays Apex Legends, he's top 5% in skill (we both are). He lives in really far away (Africa) and plays on London/Europe servers, and he's told me a good day for him is '200ms ping',. A GOOD DAY. He also only plays on less then 10MB Up and 1 Down. And he DOMINATES. I'm talking about 10 - 15 wins a game, easily geting over 2k damage, sometimes breaking 3k damage.

I'm on 35MB Up, 10 Down. I live 1 hour from London, my ping to London is 20ms. I get destroyed every single game.  Sure I do good, and I win also, but I'm getting shot behind corners, enemies destroy me 'instantly', like I have no time to react, yet my buddy with 200ms has all the time in the world to react?

So on  Netduma, I've been tweaking my internet so I only get 1MB up and 1MB down. And honestly, I feel like the game is 'compensating' for me, it's giving me a slight advantage because my speed is worse than majority in the lobby.

Try it yourself, nerf your connection via Netduma settings so you're on less than 1MB speed, and try it out for a few days.

 

I would give it a go, 1mb up and 1mb down

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4 hours ago, N3CR0 said:

Been there, tried it. I get massive ping spikes when I nerf my connection that low.

Might not work for you, plus depends on other settings on your netduma. What works for you might not work for another thats the frustrating part.

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22 minutes ago, Seye said:

Might not work for you, plus depends on other settings on your netduma. What works for you might not work for another thats the frustrating part.

I can nerf my download no problem but upload... too low and I'm teleporting everywhere lol.

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31 minutes ago, N3CR0 said:

I can nerf my download no problem but upload... too low and I'm teleporting everywhere lol.

Yesterday I played in American servers/lobbies, which was laid back gameplay was better than expected seems Geo works will since he update. The 1mb up and download is just for test to see what happens. 

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This actually worked @thisisreallife @N3CR0 have played 3 games and noticed the difference I melt enemies quicker although same goes for me I die quicker which I'm happy with. Has long has I shoot first I win 98% of the gun fight rather than emptying a clip and I still die. I would keep playing the whole week with this till end of the week to conclude. 

 

Best game I had before try hards came online 

 

 

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