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    Killhippie got a reaction from Zippy in Xr500 new update   
    That has to be a really old version then because that bug appeared with Milestone 1.3. Can the build number be added to DumaOS on Netgear routers so we know if we to talk to you or talk to Netgear when there is an issue, because if you are months ahead of Netgear this just makes this really confusing for all concerned and another reason why things may not be working as planned if you don't know what build they are releasing, yet have to support it...  So just how old is this build of DumaOS ? There needs to be more continuity and transparency in these updates and general information available for users I feel.
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    Killhippie got a reaction from raf1212 in XR500 Firmware version 2.3.2.56 released.   
    It’s a netgear router that runs DumaOS as well, netgear update the router as it’s their hardware. It needs updates from netgear  to patch security holes and to update drivers which netduma can’t do with DumaOS on this router as it’s not their hardware.  Also it was a turn of phrase too, because there were things that needed fixing in the netgear side of it while netduma work on milestone 1.4 
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    Killhippie reacted to Mement in Known issues and workarounds (Request)   
    Any chance we could get a pinned post/posts that is kept up to date for each device within its own sub forum to express know issues and their current workarounds if any until a proper fix is issued
    It would be helpful for people and keep them informed and upto date on the current firmware issues without having to search the forum or make new posts unnecessarily 
    It would also help people remedy their problems a lot quicker and easier and free up a lot of time for the devs and moderators
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    Killhippie reacted to Zippy in XR500 Firmware version 2.3.2.56 released.   
    I sure hope you guys clearly focus on in your blog/announcement of fixes that are in the current milestone. I have no idea why there has been such very little to no mention of fixes. Its not only strange but very disheartening. If you guys cant replicate some of these issues that a lot of us have reported then you need to say so. This next new milestone features are not on the top of my list. And im sure other here share the same thoughts.
    Zippy.
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    Killhippie reacted to Zippy in XR500 Firmware version 2.3.2.56 released.   
    I don't think your offending anyone. Your just expressing the same things we all are. Even those that try to put a happy face on this are just as upset as you are. We all have been pushed past our limits. This is by no means normal. We all have been pushed and expected to wait far to long and still are getting nowhere quick. This last firmware update while is nice to see is just shy of a slap in the face. All this firmware did for me is make me wonder even more if I should bail out now. And now theres talk of the next new milestone. I could careless about new features. And for some odd reason this has not resonated enough with Netduma. Because there is no way im going to go from milestone to milestone with out fixes in between. That's crazy in itself to think people can wait that length of time for fixes.. 
    Zippy.
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    Killhippie reacted to Mement in XR500 Firmware version 2.3.2.56 released.   
    I Hear you Buddy
    On November the 14th 2018
    I posted a suggestion similar about the way bugs are addressed it never saw the light of day
    link https://forum.netduma.com/topic/27042-known-issues-and-workarounds-request/?tab=comments#comment-198363
    On November the 23rd 2018
    I also posted a posted a poll in the support section to help Netduma and ourselves understand the numbers of people having the same problems to see if there was a way we could certain things focused on
    I know it wouldn't of been exact but it would have been better than nothing,
    Sadly it was quickly moved from the support section to the off topic section which to me made it irrelevant so no-one really got to see or take part which was frustrating
    link https://forum.netduma.com/topic/27233-duma-os-current-issues-poll/?tab=comments#comment-20022
    And here we are such a long time has gone by the same problems remain I agree there must be a better way forward even if it is just walking away and binning my product but Its hard to really give up on something you want to believe in
     
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    Killhippie reacted to Netduma Alex in XR500 Firmware version 2.3.2.56 released.   
    I realize this update is quite small, but the changelog isn't exhaustive, and we do have big updates on the way.
    Keep an eye out next week because we're planning a blog post that will reveal some exciting information about our plans for the next milestone.
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    Killhippie reacted to BIG__DOG in Help please.   
    Leave it alone unless you are having issues with voip.
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    Killhippie got a reaction from TurboFreak in XR500 Firmware version 2.3.2.56 released.   
    Well since you can’t make Netgear move any faster or Netduma how do you plan to make that happen? Once again we can’t but, I stand but by statement on spreading FUD because riling more discontent over software that hasn’t even been released yet is pointless and we have no control over the process anyway. All this is is doing is causing people to get even more frustrated right after an update has dropped. (I agree 8 months is way to long though) but starting a potential  flame war that could go on for months on end will have really no point, its just getting old now.
     Sometimes our thoughts should be kept to ourselves and this is coming from someone who’s been pretty vocal about how frustrating I found the huge gap between milestone 1.3 and this update and the lack of bug fixes, but I can’t change the outcome I can’t change when the milestone 1.4  will come and I can’t be bothered to get that upset about something that I will never have any control over anyway I can make my feelings known but maybe in a more constructive way with some form of discourse with Devs again considering how bug fixing is going. Now if you can develop new firmware yourself faster and with less bugs feel free to make your own fork. (I wish Voxel could be involved in this)
     Yes it’s frustrating that there are bugs but at the end of the day there are always going to be issues with firmware after all there is no such thing as a perfect software. Also you’ve decided things aren’t going to be fixed at all, well that's how it comes over to me, so how about just giving the guys some breathing space and waiting for 1.4 to come out before condemning it. Now if it’s a mess then fair enough, but until we get to try it take the new fixes (what few there are) be glad you’ve got some security patches that may stop the router being compromised and see what happens next.  
    This forum is just getting way to toxic and that’s no good for anybody, and getting people fired up about something neither you or I know anything about isn’t the best way forward as I see it. Your mileage may vary though.  Also how did the update go for you, how was your XR router?  You haven’t said what bugs you have found with the new firmware and sharing them would obviously be really helpful in getting those things fixed...
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    Killhippie reacted to Zippy in XR500 Firmware version 2.3.2.56 released.   
    xr500user I know your a tech savvy type guy. I totally get that. Im not telling you what to do but I would highly recommend a factory reset to your router. Im not pulling this from thin air but guys that actually write firmware's suggest to for very good reasons. I know your trying to trouble shoot things here. But really its hard to give any accurate feedback if you haven't done a factory reset after this firmware update.  This update maybe small and meaningless but its all we have to go on at this point. I do enjoy your pointing things out with this router and have seen a lot of similarities between what you have found and issues ive had. You should entertain me and do a factory reset to your router. Read up on what killhippie has posted. Theres a link to what Merlin says about factory resetting a router. Its a good read and gives why one should do a factory reset. 
    Zippy.
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    Killhippie got a reaction from Levity in NEDuma xr500   
    Wait to the GPL code form Netgear has been released and more people are using it as well, then we will get to see what's been updated code wise hopefully. Netgear are not known for their comprehensive release notes.
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    Killhippie got a reaction from Netduma Alex in XR500 Firmware version 2.3.2.56 released.   
    It’s a netgear router that runs DumaOS as well, netgear update the router as it’s their hardware. It needs updates from netgear  to patch security holes and to update drivers which netduma can’t do with DumaOS on this router as it’s not their hardware.  Also it was a turn of phrase too, because there were things that needed fixing in the netgear side of it while netduma work on milestone 1.4 
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    Killhippie got a reaction from e38BimmerFN in XR500 Firmware version 2.3.2.56 released.   
    Worst thing to do is restore from a back up. New updates bring new features and other changes, like in 2.3.2.56 there is now a separate NTP time server, a new password setup, and probably a bunch low lying changes that can be incompatible with older backups from previous firmware versions. These changes can cause problems so you should always if you do have issues start fresh with a factory reset, then add everything back yourself without using a backup. Not every update is about new features but also stability and especially security. Netgear wait a while to release  security exploit details so people get updated before the exploits are on the Netgear site for all to see (and abuse)

     Below is a extract from Melin's  piece on factory resets and why they should be done, I'll link to the whole article and then if you want you can read more as to why factory rests are better than using a backup, from a great firmware writer who even Asus took notice of. The instructions below and in his article apply to all routers when things go wrong.

    Why do I sometime need to do a factory default reset?
    In addition to those user-entered settings, there's all those system level settings I previously mentioned. Sometimes, the manufacturer will need to change some of those low-level settings, either to resolve an issue, or to adapt to a newer wireless driver that they started using.

    If you fail to do a factory default reset, then your router will still have the old values, and it will keep using them. That can lead to performance issues (especially in changes related to the wireless driver), or flat out odd behaviour (if one of the settings no longer works the same way as before).

    Can I just restore my saved settings after I do a factory default reset?
    No. The idea behind a factory default reset is to have your router start using the NEW default values. If you restore your saved settings, you will overwrite those new values with the old ones, and you are back to square one.

    This is similar to having a PC with a corrupted Windows installation. If you reformat, and immediately after you restore a Ghost/TrueImage/Clonezilla backup on top of the reformatted Windows, you are back to where you were before you did all that work.

    https://www.snbforums.com/threads/faq-nvram-and-factory-default-reset.22822/
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    Killhippie got a reaction from TurboFreak in XR500 Firmware version 2.3.2.56 released.   
    New Features and Enhancements:
    Support France Free and Orange ISP of the IPTV configuration. Support GUI login weak password protection. Bug Fixes:
    Fixes security vulnerability issues. Fixes the issue that cannot detect and prioritize game traffic of Fortnite Fixes the issue that in traffic prioritization, it can't detect "league of legend" traffic and some other pc games, such as Apex Legend, Monster Hunter and Rainbow Six Siege. Fixes the issue that the speedtest download speed result will be limited at 500Mbps Firmware Update Instructions:
    Download Link : http://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/XR500/XR500-V2.3.2.56.zip
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    Killhippie got a reaction from Bert in NEDuma xr500   
    Wait to the GPL code form Netgear has been released and more people are using it as well, then we will get to see what's been updated code wise hopefully. Netgear are not known for their comprehensive release notes.
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    Killhippie reacted to Netduma Alex in Firmware in final testing   
    The firmware in question is now available to all. Details are here: https://kb.netgear.com/000061157/XR500-Firmware-Version-2-3-2-56
    I'm going to close this thread now, since it now has no purpose.
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    Killhippie got a reaction from Zippy in XR500 Firmware version 2.3.2.56 released.   
    New Features and Enhancements:
    Support France Free and Orange ISP of the IPTV configuration. Support GUI login weak password protection. Bug Fixes:
    Fixes security vulnerability issues. Fixes the issue that cannot detect and prioritize game traffic of Fortnite Fixes the issue that in traffic prioritization, it can't detect "league of legend" traffic and some other pc games, such as Apex Legend, Monster Hunter and Rainbow Six Siege. Fixes the issue that the speedtest download speed result will be limited at 500Mbps Firmware Update Instructions:
    Download Link : http://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/XR500/XR500-V2.3.2.56.zip
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    Killhippie got a reaction from Netduma Alex in XR500 Firmware version 2.3.2.56 released.   
    New Features and Enhancements:
    Support France Free and Orange ISP of the IPTV configuration. Support GUI login weak password protection. Bug Fixes:
    Fixes security vulnerability issues. Fixes the issue that cannot detect and prioritize game traffic of Fortnite Fixes the issue that in traffic prioritization, it can't detect "league of legend" traffic and some other pc games, such as Apex Legend, Monster Hunter and Rainbow Six Siege. Fixes the issue that the speedtest download speed result will be limited at 500Mbps Firmware Update Instructions:
    Download Link : http://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/XR500/XR500-V2.3.2.56.zip
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    Killhippie got a reaction from Netduma Alex in Firmware in final testing   
    Vous semblez toujours ne pas avoir compris la nature des tests de microprogramme / matériel pré-version / bêta. Vous n'êtes pas autorisé à en parler! La première règle du test bêta est de ne parler qu'à ceux que vous savez utiliser mais par les canaux appropriés. Ce fil est encore un exemple des retombées de quelqu'un qui ne respecte pas ces règles.

      Il est spécifiquement demandé aux personnes de ne pas discuter du firmware publiquement en acceptant dans certains cas un NDA (accord de non-fermeture) ou par le fournisseur du firmware vous demandant de ne pas le faire, dans ce cas, Netgear. C'est si simple. Ce fil va vraiment dans des cercles de plus en plus décroissants maintenant. Je crois comprendre que vous êtes frustré, mais quiconque utilise peut-être 0,56 ne peut en parler publiquement, car ils ne sont tout simplement pas autorisés.

      C’est les règles établies par la société / les membres du personnel des sociétés qui distribuent les microprogrammes à des fins de test, sauf s’il s’agit d’une version bêta publique, ce qui n’est pas le cas. Il n'y a plus rien à dire sur le sujet.
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    Killhippie got a reaction from Zippy in Firmware in final testing   
    The R7000 was a good router that suffered at the hands of bad updates for the longest time. After adding the Arlo stuff and removing it the router never felt 'whole' again for a long time, and there were so many complaints on forum about it. The R7800 has so far been one of Netgears best router based on just netgears own firmware, but that's been buggy of late with high ping spikes in 5Ghz and attached devices not working properly even with Voxels great fork. Also no real updates to that router either for a long time, and QoS on the R7800 has not been updated since 2017 as Qualcomm has given up on Streamboost.

     Right now is not the time to buy Wi-Fi 6 gear either as its based on draft 3 not the final ratified version and next year we will see new silicon that can take full advantage of the final draft at the end of the year, rather like wave 2 for Wi-Fi 5. Yes this XR500 router is unusual and has had its fair share of bugs since I got one as a beta tester and a later launch model. (without the messed up port printing on the back) However looking over the forums I don't think the XR500 is any worse than the R7000 for issues with firmware tbh. Googling R7000 Netgear router bugs bring up a lot of unhappy users and bug info.

     I hope the long gap means Netgears management has finally got a grip of the lousy firmware that was being written for very good hardware. When three separate firmware devs in Taiwan all are using different versions of the same code for routers, so the XR500 had a later version of OpenSSL compared to the R7800 which had a newer version than the R9000 which has a really outdated version but was the flagship at the time, it boggles the mind (no wonder the XR700 is buggy as its a R9000 warts and all.) Apart from making it known we don't like this practice and voting with our wallets there is nothing we can do. So its either move on or just realise this is the way of modern life and find a good third party firmware from the likes of Voxel or Merlin and many others who take time and have pride in their work. As long as you don't mind maybe not always having the latest Wi-Fi drivers all is good unless you brick the router, and then you are on your own as Netgear don't support using third party firmware as far as I know.

     DumaOS when working as it should is a great OS (because its not created by a multinational company and they take great pride too) but they need full IPv6 support I will say. I may not like the length between patches one bit for Netgear's DumaOS routers, but that is more to do with Netgear than Netduma I imagine. Netgear really dumbs down their interface, maybe so they can avoid support calls as someone I know mentioned elsewhere. Asus make great firmware (Merlin based) but some of their hardware has been lacking and the number or times radios have failed even on the RT-AC86U which is a great router is quite surprising. You will never find perfect hardware or firmware or the perfect OS, it doesn't exist and if you are looking for it you will just drive yourself mad.
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    Killhippie got a reaction from Newfie in Firmware in final testing   
    The R7000 was a good router that suffered at the hands of bad updates for the longest time. After adding the Arlo stuff and removing it the router never felt 'whole' again for a long time, and there were so many complaints on forum about it. The R7800 has so far been one of Netgears best router based on just netgears own firmware, but that's been buggy of late with high ping spikes in 5Ghz and attached devices not working properly even with Voxels great fork. Also no real updates to that router either for a long time, and QoS on the R7800 has not been updated since 2017 as Qualcomm has given up on Streamboost.

     Right now is not the time to buy Wi-Fi 6 gear either as its based on draft 3 not the final ratified version and next year we will see new silicon that can take full advantage of the final draft at the end of the year, rather like wave 2 for Wi-Fi 5. Yes this XR500 router is unusual and has had its fair share of bugs since I got one as a beta tester and a later launch model. (without the messed up port printing on the back) However looking over the forums I don't think the XR500 is any worse than the R7000 for issues with firmware tbh. Googling R7000 Netgear router bugs bring up a lot of unhappy users and bug info.

     I hope the long gap means Netgears management has finally got a grip of the lousy firmware that was being written for very good hardware. When three separate firmware devs in Taiwan all are using different versions of the same code for routers, so the XR500 had a later version of OpenSSL compared to the R7800 which had a newer version than the R9000 which has a really outdated version but was the flagship at the time, it boggles the mind (no wonder the XR700 is buggy as its a R9000 warts and all.) Apart from making it known we don't like this practice and voting with our wallets there is nothing we can do. So its either move on or just realise this is the way of modern life and find a good third party firmware from the likes of Voxel or Merlin and many others who take time and have pride in their work. As long as you don't mind maybe not always having the latest Wi-Fi drivers all is good unless you brick the router, and then you are on your own as Netgear don't support using third party firmware as far as I know.

     DumaOS when working as it should is a great OS (because its not created by a multinational company and they take great pride too) but they need full IPv6 support I will say. I may not like the length between patches one bit for Netgear's DumaOS routers, but that is more to do with Netgear than Netduma I imagine. Netgear really dumbs down their interface, maybe so they can avoid support calls as someone I know mentioned elsewhere. Asus make great firmware (Merlin based) but some of their hardware has been lacking and the number or times radios have failed even on the RT-AC86U which is a great router is quite surprising. You will never find perfect hardware or firmware or the perfect OS, it doesn't exist and if you are looking for it you will just drive yourself mad.
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    Killhippie got a reaction from Netduma Alex in Firmware in final testing   
    The R7000 was a good router that suffered at the hands of bad updates for the longest time. After adding the Arlo stuff and removing it the router never felt 'whole' again for a long time, and there were so many complaints on forum about it. The R7800 has so far been one of Netgears best router based on just netgears own firmware, but that's been buggy of late with high ping spikes in 5Ghz and attached devices not working properly even with Voxels great fork. Also no real updates to that router either for a long time, and QoS on the R7800 has not been updated since 2017 as Qualcomm has given up on Streamboost.

     Right now is not the time to buy Wi-Fi 6 gear either as its based on draft 3 not the final ratified version and next year we will see new silicon that can take full advantage of the final draft at the end of the year, rather like wave 2 for Wi-Fi 5. Yes this XR500 router is unusual and has had its fair share of bugs since I got one as a beta tester and a later launch model. (without the messed up port printing on the back) However looking over the forums I don't think the XR500 is any worse than the R7000 for issues with firmware tbh. Googling R7000 Netgear router bugs bring up a lot of unhappy users and bug info.

     I hope the long gap means Netgears management has finally got a grip of the lousy firmware that was being written for very good hardware. When three separate firmware devs in Taiwan all are using different versions of the same code for routers, so the XR500 had a later version of OpenSSL compared to the R7800 which had a newer version than the R9000 which has a really outdated version but was the flagship at the time, it boggles the mind (no wonder the XR700 is buggy as its a R9000 warts and all.) Apart from making it known we don't like this practice and voting with our wallets there is nothing we can do. So its either move on or just realise this is the way of modern life and find a good third party firmware from the likes of Voxel or Merlin and many others who take time and have pride in their work. As long as you don't mind maybe not always having the latest Wi-Fi drivers all is good unless you brick the router, and then you are on your own as Netgear don't support using third party firmware as far as I know.

     DumaOS when working as it should is a great OS (because its not created by a multinational company and they take great pride too) but they need full IPv6 support I will say. I may not like the length between patches one bit for Netgear's DumaOS routers, but that is more to do with Netgear than Netduma I imagine. Netgear really dumbs down their interface, maybe so they can avoid support calls as someone I know mentioned elsewhere. Asus make great firmware (Merlin based) but some of their hardware has been lacking and the number or times radios have failed even on the RT-AC86U which is a great router is quite surprising. You will never find perfect hardware or firmware or the perfect OS, it doesn't exist and if you are looking for it you will just drive yourself mad.
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    Killhippie reacted to Zippy in Firmware in final testing   
    The XR500 is a very unique router. While I also agree its taking along time that is just the nature of the beast. You have DumaOS that has to be stable and then you have to have Netgears firmware to be stable. Then those two have to play nice together. Which can and does take time. More time then what your average firmware on basic type routers. That's just one example and reason. Now the more features a router has the more chances for things to go wrong. This really is a very complicated router tbh. The more testing done now the better.  And if issues arise while testing a firmware as complicated as this im sure it will be delayed or take even more time to get things worked out. Which im sure will further delay any new firmware release.
     I have been very critical and harsh towards Netduma and this XR500. But if I wasn't they might feel left out and not loved! At the end of the day no matter the outcome of this XR500 I will still love the guys at Netduma for what they are and stand for. Life is to short these days to do anything less then that. No one has worked so hard and tried to give us features like Netduma has for us gamers alike all around the globe.. That in itself deserves credit where credit is do! At any point when or if Netduma decides to create another router of there own whether it be a R2 or whatever. I will be that guy standing in line to get one!  
    Zippy.
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    Killhippie got a reaction from Newfie in Firmware in final testing   
    All software has bugs every router, every phone, every TV every operating system. It’s impossible to have tens of thousands to millions of lines of code and not have bugs or now and then regressions. Netgear is not the only company that has issues believe me. Sonys android firmware for their TVs is buggy beyond belief and if you bought an OLED TV in 2018 you actually bought 2015 hardware which is now out of date. This is the world we live in nothing is ever perfect but each update will bring something new to the table and maybe some bugs. The longer it’s tested the better chance we have of a good and stable final release and even though I have been one of the ones complaining I am well aware after many years of beta testing firmware and hardware that patience is at the end of the day is the only thing we have, we can’t control who writes the firmware we can’t control the company that publishes it, we just see how it turns out when released.
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    Killhippie got a reaction from N3CR0 in Firmware in final testing   
    All software has bugs every router, every phone, every TV every operating system. It’s impossible to have tens of thousands to millions of lines of code and not have bugs or now and then regressions. Netgear is not the only company that has issues believe me. Sonys android firmware for their TVs is buggy beyond belief and if you bought an OLED TV in 2018 you actually bought 2015 hardware which is now out of date. This is the world we live in nothing is ever perfect but each update will bring something new to the table and maybe some bugs. The longer it’s tested the better chance we have of a good and stable final release and even though I have been one of the ones complaining I am well aware after many years of beta testing firmware and hardware that patience is at the end of the day is the only thing we have, we can’t control who writes the firmware we can’t control the company that publishes it, we just see how it turns out when released.
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