MarkCorbyn123 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 We have tried to correct our NAT type with the instructions from Netduma and used the YouTube clip on the URL too. Our Xbox One X is still having issues. I have a Moderate NAT type and still the annoying double NAT. Nothing seems to be working no matter how many opinions I have tried Your strict NAT will be causing several issues, so lets get that sorted first of all. Enable UPnP in Settings > UPnP on the Netduma, and make sure no rules are set in Settings > Port Forwarding. Then, put your Netduma in the DMZ of your modem. (To do this, navigate to the Device Manager. Copy the WAN IP address found near the top of the page, then access your Modem interface. Paste that WAN IP address into the DMZ box which is usually found in Security / Firewall settings.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e38BimmerFN Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 This a single xbox or two or more consoles? What is the Mfr and model of the ISP modem? if you use uPnP, disable any port forwarding configurations as its not needed. If your modem has a built in router, use it's DMZ on the modem/router for the IP address of the NetDuma router that it gets from the modem/router. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCorbyn123 Posted June 18, 2018 Author Share Posted June 18, 2018 I would like it to be a multi-console set up, however, I am just trying it on my Xbox One X for now. The model number of my modem is a HG633 from TalkTalk. I don't have any of my ports forwarding in the uPnP. My set up is: Wall outlet into a TalkTalk modem > Netduma is plugged into the TalkTalk modem. > From the Netduma is a TP Link sender to a receiver upstairs. > From the receiver upstairs, it feeds into a splitter which then connects to my Devices (PC and Xbox One X), all of this is done via a hard wired connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e38BimmerFN Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Hmmm. Can you get your xbox connected directly to the R1 router? Possible that this sender and or splitter up stairs could be doing this. Are these power link devices? If your modem is this: http://www.trustedreviews.com/reviews/talktalk-hg633-super-router Modem Combo Units:Couple of options,1. Configure the modem for transparent bridge mode.2. If you can't bridge the modem, disable ALL wifi radios on the modem, configure the modems DMZ for the IP address the R1 router gets from the modem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCorbyn123 Posted June 18, 2018 Author Share Posted June 18, 2018 I am unable to connect the Netduma to the Xbox directly. The reason for this is because of the distance from the Modem to the devices. The TP Link are powered, in the sense that they are plugged in to a wall socket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e38BimmerFN Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 What is the distance from the R1 to the console? Do you have wireless enabled on the modem or the R1 by chance? I would work on the DMZ option on the modem for the R1 router... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCorbyn123 Posted June 18, 2018 Author Share Posted June 18, 2018 The distance is about 18-20m... That's without drilling through the floor and creating a hole. I have look at the DMZ option, I logged on to my providers account and went into the firewall and enabled the DMZ and select the Netduma too. This didn't fix my NAT type either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netduma Staff Netduma Jack Posted June 19, 2018 Netduma Staff Share Posted June 19, 2018 UPnP & port forwarding disabled on ISP router. Then use either UPnP or port forwarding on R1. With the Geo-Filter disabled and the R1 in the DMZ of your modem, do you have an open NAT? Is it possible to bring the Netduma and the Xbox to your modem and connect this way: Modem > Netduma > Xbox (I mean only temporarily) to rule out the splitter / receiver? It's important to make sure they aren't the cause. Since this is an Xbox One issue you could also try this solution: - Go to Xbox dashboard. - Go to system settings - Go to network - Go to advanced settings - Go to alternate MAC address Clear - Your Xbox will tell you It will restart. - Once you have restarted the NAT type should be open. Originally this guide was for unavailable NAT types, though it could work in this case as well. Please let us know if that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e38BimmerFN Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I would to a quick test, take the xbox console and move it to where the NetDuma router is. I would enable the wifi on the NetDuma and connect the xbox to it's wireless or use a LAN cable. Then check for NAT condition. Need to rule out those power line adapters by bypassing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCorbyn123 Posted June 19, 2018 Author Share Posted June 19, 2018 I have tried and tested all of the above. I am still having a problem. Do you have any other suggestions? We have repeated other steps to ensure we haven’t missed anything. We managed to use the port forwarding on our modem to connect to the Netduma. We had an open Nat on the Xbox with this for around 10-15 minutes before it disconnected and returned to double NAT and haven’t been able to reconnect it since. I have tried resetting everything to the beginning and trying again, but the mode stays on Moderate Double NAT. Due to the type of Modem I have, I am unable to put this into 'Bridge Mode'. My Modem is a HG633 from TalkTalk. The one piece of troubleshooting that was a success; Modem > Netduma > Xbox One. When this was connected up (Hard wired) it was giving me and open NAT type and no double NAT was detected. I left it for a minute or two and it wasn't dropping out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e38BimmerFN Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I have tried and tested all of the above. I am still having a problem. Do you have any other suggestions? We have repeated other steps to ensure we haven’t missed anything. We managed to use the port forwarding on our modem to connect to the Netduma. We had an open Nat on the Xbox with this for around 10-15 minutes before it disconnected and returned to double NAT and haven’t been able to reconnect it since. I have tried resetting everything to the beginning and trying again, but the mode stays on Moderate Double NAT. Due to the type of Modem I have, I am unable to put this into 'Bridge Mode'. My Modem is a HG633 from TalkTalk. The one piece of troubleshooting that was a success; Modem > Netduma > Xbox One. When this was connected up (Hard wired) it was giving me and open NAT type and no double NAT was detected. I left it for a minute or two and it wasn't dropping out. The netduma connected to the modem seems to be the configuration you need. Sounds like your devices that are in between the router and remote location if your xbox are effecting NAT. Since your gettnig OPEN NAT directly having the xbox connected to the R1, your problems are probably with your in between devices. Can you enable wireless on the R1 router and have the xbox connect to it and still get OPE NAT? You may need to use wireless as a more direct connection to the R1 if you can't get a direct wired LAN cable to the remote location. I would put the R1s IP address it gets from the Modem into the Modems DMZ. This will also help with NAT since the modem already has a router built in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netduma Staff Netduma Jack Posted June 20, 2018 Netduma Staff Share Posted June 20, 2018 I have tried and tested all of the above. I am still having a problem. Do you have any other suggestions? We have repeated other steps to ensure we haven’t missed anything. We managed to use the port forwarding on our modem to connect to the Netduma. We had an open Nat on the Xbox with this for around 10-15 minutes before it disconnected and returned to double NAT and haven’t been able to reconnect it since. I have tried resetting everything to the beginning and trying again, but the mode stays on Moderate Double NAT. Due to the type of Modem I have, I am unable to put this into 'Bridge Mode'. My Modem is a HG633 from TalkTalk. The one piece of troubleshooting that was a success; Modem > Netduma > Xbox One. When this was connected up (Hard wired) it was giving me and open NAT type and no double NAT was detected. I left it for a minute or two and it wasn't dropping out. The suggestions above are great, and I couldn't agree more. You've now proved the source of your NAT issue, which is the switch and receiver. If everything is working well with those disconnected then these are without doubt the issue. Could you not use a powerline adapter instead of your splitter / receiver setup? Your setup would then be Modem > Netduma > Powerline Adapter > Console. The Powerline Adapter wouldn't cause any issues and would allow you to get a wired connection upstairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCorbyn123 Posted June 20, 2018 Author Share Posted June 20, 2018 I am already using a power-line adapter: https://www.ebuyer.com/780283-tp-link-powerline-av600-nano-adapter-starter-kit-tl-pa4010kit-v1-20-tl-pa4010kit-v1-20?mkwid=sWA3N2WiH_dc&pcrid=51630194939&pkw=&pmt=&gclid=CjwKCAjw9qfZBRA5EiwAiq0AbZfWfaHt86kZwt2GZnPuS79NbG22j8OmmJzbNCjqU7X0lbGHQIRj4xoCe1YQAvD_BwE Which then feeds in to my spitter; I need the splitter because I also PC game and I don't wont my connection dropping out. The TP Link set up I have only has 1 output. http://www.broadbandbuyer.com/products/9673-tp-link-tl-sf1005d/?gclid=CjwKCAjw9qfZBRA5EiwAiq0AbVP7LsOFN-Tedhj6scbg9UdbqJE4sqCIHoFFBASKlfri8iZeeCk2pxoC19wQAvD_BwE All of this is done via a hardwired connection. I have tried removing the TP Link (power line adapter) and splitter. And running off the wireless. NOT GOOD. When I connect my PC to the Netduma the connection lasts for around 5 seconds. By the time I load an internet page, it's gone. On the Xbox it struggles to locate the Netduma as a wireless connection. It found it once, and by the time I tried to put the password in, the connection disappeared. I am in the process of trying to talk to my provider to see if they can add a wall outlet in the upstairs room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e38BimmerFN Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 IF they can add you a LAN cable outlet the comes from where your modem and NetDuma router is located, then you'll be good. You can then add a network LAN switch to help expand the ports and be able to add other items in the remote location. Wireless on the R1 wasn't great and depending upon the distance between the R1 and your xbox, the signal might not be enough. So, yes, it's highly recommended if you can get a LAN cable installed from the Modem/Router location up to the remote location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCorbyn123 Posted June 20, 2018 Author Share Posted June 20, 2018 I have spoken to my provider, TalkTalk. It's going to be £80 for them to install a wall out. Something at the moment I cannot afford. Correct me if I am wrong, I assume there isn't anything more we can do to make to work with the current set up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e38BimmerFN Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Only other thing you can try is to get a wireless AP installed that has more power and range than the R1 does and see if you can get better wireless signal to the remote location. This could still be problematic as well. Might ask a friend or someone you may know that knows how to install LAN cabling. You don't need the ISP to install LAN cabling. Some mom and pop shops may have the know how as well. Netduma Fraser 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCorbyn123 Posted June 23, 2018 Author Share Posted June 23, 2018 Good afternoon Both, Can I just return the product please? Do you arrange collection? Or would I be expected to send the unit back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netduma Staff Netduma Jack Posted June 23, 2018 Netduma Staff Share Posted June 23, 2018 Good afternoon Both, Can I just return the product please? Do you arrange collection? Or would I be expected to send the unit back? Since you're still covered by your 14 day return window you're welcome to return the unit since it's not working out in your setup. If you email [email protected] we'll get this process started for you. If your setup ever changes make sure to keep us in mind if you want a great gaming router Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCorbyn123 Posted June 23, 2018 Author Share Posted June 23, 2018 Thanks you for this. I have emailed [email protected]. I will certainly keep you in mind for when my set up process changes. Many thanks for your assistance here both. Netduma Fraser and Netduma Jack 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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