Funkybadger Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Was wondering how accurate I have to be as my speeds go up and down and will it affect my congestion control if it’s set to high if it does would I be better putting in my average speed rather than what it’s at late at night when it’s at its fastest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG__DOG Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 hi and welcome to the forum. Input your average speeds. That is what most users with the R1 and to be honest other routers that allow you to input bandwidth speeds into their qos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkybadger Posted March 16, 2018 Author Share Posted March 16, 2018 Thanks big dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkybadger Posted March 16, 2018 Author Share Posted March 16, 2018 hi and welcome to the forum. Input your average speeds. That is what most users with the R1 and to be honest other routers that allow you to input bandwidth speeds into their qos! Big dog when for example I sent download to 15 upload to 8 and do a speed test my speeds go higher than what I set them too is this ok or is it not working I double checked and there definitely set to 15d 8up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkybadger Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 Found out the issue when I was entering bandwidth I was hitting yes to automatically configure to handle speeds this time I hit no and it is working perfect I’ve been doing it wrong all along sorted now any how BIG__DOG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RL317 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 On 100/6 cable it tended to go below 50 often for me, and never went over 80, so I usually just stuck 50/6 in the set bandwidth tab. On 55/10 FTTC I typically see 53-54/9.5 more often than not so I just put in 50/9 just to be on the safe side. If it fluctuates heavily I'd suggest underestimating it just so you know your sliders will cover you if it increases suddenly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkybadger Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 Thanks buddy I’ll give it a try one I get home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RL317 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 BTW if you set your bandwidth to 15/8 and got higher than that, it must only be because you were using 100% sliders? Not sure if it's intentional or not but it's pretty useful. You can lower your bandwidth with lower numbers in set bandwidth AND lower sliders specifically for gaming, but when you're done and need the internet for anything else just set them back to 100% and it'll act like you've got your real bandwidth numbers in the set bandwidth section. I tried 30/8Mb in set bandwidth once and got the usual 20-ish down 6-ish up with 70% sliders, but when I was done with gaming I knocked the sliders back up to 100% and it acted like I'd typed 55/10 back in. Pretty useful when messing around trying to find something that works for gaming without needing to reset your bandwidth numbers to whatever you really get for full speeds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkybadger Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 BTW if you set your bandwidth to 15/8 and got higher than that, it must only be because you were using 100% sliders? Not sure if it's intentional or not but it's pretty useful. You can lower your bandwidth with lower numbers in set bandwidth AND lower sliders specifically for gaming, but when you're done and need the internet for anything else just set them back to 100% and it'll act like you've got your real bandwidth numbers in the set bandwidth section. I tried 30/8Mb in set bandwidth once and got the usual 20-ish down 6-ish up with 70% sliders, but when I was done with gaming I knocked the sliders back up to 100% and it acted like I'd typed 55/10 back in. Pretty useful when messing around trying to find something that works for gaming without needing to reset your bandwidth numbers to whatever you really get for full speeds Say I set sliders to 70% what happens to the extra 30% is that used as like a back up incase off lag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RL317 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Say I set sliders to 70% what happens to the extra 30% is that used as like a back up incase off lagYeah it's basically cut off. The way it works is it prevents the entirety of your bandwidth being used, so there's always space for packets to travel freely. If bandwidth is fully used you get bufferbloat (packets being delayed) because they're having to queue to leave the router. This is what causes hundreds of milliseconds (or even full seconds!) of extra latency. Not good for gaming where latency is crucial That's why it's a good idea to do a bit of testing when you get the R1 so you can find the "sweet spot" - the amount of bandwidth that lets you download and upload as fast as possible, but without the bufferbloat. Netduma Admin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkybadger Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 Yeah it's basically cut off. The way it works is it prevents the entirety of your bandwidth being used, so there's always space for packets to travel freely. If bandwidth is fully used you get bufferbloat (packets being delayed) because they're having to queue to leave the router. This is what causes hundreds of milliseconds (or even full seconds!) of extra latency. Not good for gaming where latency is crucial That's why it's a good idea to do a bit of testing when you get the R1 so you can find the "sweet spot" - the amount of bandwidth that lets you download and upload as fast as possible, but without the bufferbloat. Dam that’s really interesting tbh thanks for the information Netduma Admin and RL317 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Admin Posted March 17, 2018 Administrators Share Posted March 17, 2018 Great explanation IIIRL! RL317 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkybadger Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 Great explanation IIIRL! Has anyone found that reactive works better for them than premptive my connection is 30d 10up seems more stable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Admin Posted March 17, 2018 Administrators Share Posted March 17, 2018 Has anyone found that reactive works better for them than premptive my connection is 30d 10up seems more stable You can switch between either to see what works best for you. But generally for your speeds preemptive should be best for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RL317 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Has anyone found that reactive works better for them than premptive my connection is 30d 10up seems more stable I don't really see much difference with my sliders at 70% mate. If you go up higher to say 90%, you'll see more bandwidth on reactive but preemptive would be better at keeping spikes suppressed when using the internet if you're just gaming preemptive would be perfect for you. If you have, say, someone streaming TV or downloading something while you're playing, you might want to experiment a little with numbers between 70-90% download and try both preemptive and reactive to find the best compromise between bandwidth and stability with just 30 download to play with. 10 upload is more than sufficient though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkybadger Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 Thanks I’ll have a test when I get home RL317 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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