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Hi guys,

 

Im not sure whats wrong, but why is "my best" server located in another state? The game I have loaded is infinite warfare and I usually play FFA and having the geo-filter enabled makes it much harder to find games, so most of the time I disable it. I live in CA and the server that I always connected to in the past would be the one actually located in CA. Right when I power up my xbox and before loading any game, the server located between Wyoming and Colorado is the first one to appear and expand. Once I enter the multiplayer menu the server between Wyoming and Colorado is still the one I am connecting to. I have always had consistent games in the past, but for the past few weeks it hasn't gone so well. I even tried tdm with the geo filter enabled/strict mode on and some games were ok, but most were a bad experience. Players inside the geo-filter region were eating bullets and appeared to be moving a lot faster than me. Below are images of what my geo-filter looks like. 

 

Show dormant hosts ticked

 

https://imgur.com/a/wcHD5

 

Show dormant hosts unticked

 

https://imgur.com/a/x3xoo

 

I will try with another game later because it seems xbox live is down and I am unable to sign in right now. Any help/feedback is much appreciated. Thanks!

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Hi guys,

 

Im not sure whats wrong, but why is "my best" server located in another state? The game I have loaded is infinite warfare and I usually play FFA and having the geo-filter enabled makes it much harder to find games, so most of the time I disable it. I live in CA and the server that I always connected to in the past would be the one actually located in CA. Right when I power up my xbox and before loading any game, the server located between Wyoming and Colorado is the first one to appear and expand. Once I enter the multiplayer menu the server between Wyoming and Colorado is still the one I am connecting to. I have always had consistent games in the past, but for the past few weeks it hasn't gone so well. I even tried tdm with the geo filter enabled/strict mode on and some games were ok, but most were a bad experience. Players inside the geo-filter region were eating bullets and appeared to be moving a lot faster than me. Below are images of what my geo-filter looks like. 

 

Show dormant hosts ticked

 

https://imgur.com/a/wcHD5

 

Show dormant hosts unticked

 

https://imgur.com/a/x3xoo

 

I will try with another game later because it seems xbox live is down and I am unable to sign in right now. Any help/feedback is much appreciated. Thanks!

 

It's been a few years... but if you expand your geo filter slightly you should pick up a bank of dedicated servers in Washington

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Hi, welcome to the forum! If all was going well but it seemed like something changed, it's likely that Activision have changed something on their end rather than an issue occurring with the Netduma. You could definitely try for the Washington server bank (if it's still there, we haven't tested Infinite Warfare recently), though it could be that support for Infinite Warfare is being reduced in favour of other CoD titles. It wouldn't require a patch / update for this to happen either.

 

If you're struggling to join games we recommend increasing the radius by increments until it's easier, and also trying Ping Assist. You should also check if your NAT type has changed - if you NAT has become moderate it could lead to issues similar to what you are experiencing.

 

Please let me know if this helps :)

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It's been a few years... but if you expand your geo filter slightly you should pick up a bank of dedicated servers in Washington

 

 

Hi, welcome to the forum! If all was going well but it seemed like something changed, it's likely that Activision have changed something on their end rather than an issue occurring with the Netduma. You could definitely try for the Washington server bank (if it's still there, we haven't tested Infinite Warfare recently), though it could be that support for Infinite Warfare is being reduced in favour of other CoD titles. It wouldn't require a patch / update for this to happen either.

 

If you're struggling to join games we recommend increasing the radius by increments until it's easier, and also trying Ping Assist. You should also check if your NAT type has changed - if you NAT has become moderate it could lead to issues similar to what you are experiencing.

 

Please let me know if this helps :)

 

Hi,

 

I expanded the geo-filter slightly and it still shows the game only connecting to a server quite a distance from me. I tried on bo3, iw, as well as mwr and its the same server for each game. Even before loading any game that server is the first one to appear, which I don't understand either lol and I can't recall that ever happening. 

 

Below is a picture of what happens when I power up my xbox, load the multiplayer for each game, and untick show dormant hosts. 

 

https://imgur.com/a/f3OUq

 

Ping from server

 

https://imgur.com/a/v8XiP

 

My NAT also remains open. 

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There's not much more we can add as everything is working as intended. As Jack said, maybe Activision have changed something recently.

 

I think you're best to experiment with ranges - see where the best server is for you and just keep your Geo-Filter over that location all the time.

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There's not much more we can add as everything is working as intended. As Jack said, maybe Activision have changed something recently.

 

I think you're best to experiment with ranges - see where the best server is for you and just keep your Geo-Filter over that location all the time.

 

Hi,

 

I have tried lots of ranges and its still the same, even with the geo-filter fully expanded. But what I don't understand is how all three games are connecting to the exact same server and only that sever. The image I posted above is when I enter the multiplayer menu and before I search for a game. For each game I load the multiplayer menu with show dormant hosts ticked and yes I believe it does show all of the game servers, but when I untick show dormant hosts that random sever in the middle of my geo-filter map is the only one to stay. And the sever that stays is the one the game is connecting to right? Up until recently I have never even seen that sever in the middle of my map. What I was also trying to explain earlier is that right when I power up my xbox and before opening any game, that server is the first thing to appear on my geo-filter map. Its like I'm stuck playing on it haha. 

 

I know these game are somewhat old, but I have nothing else to test this on. 

 

Thank you for your feedback and suggestion though. 

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You aren’t connecting to just 1 server. You are connecting to many different servers but they are all in the same location. Data centres that games use could house hundreds of servers for lots of different games. If you look at the server IDs they will all be different.

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You aren’t connecting to just 1 server. You are connecting to many different servers but they are all in the same location. Data centres that games use could house hundreds of servers for lots of different games. If you look at the server IDs they will all be different.

 

That makes sense, but why am I connecting to that server bank before I even load a game? Its always the same one, every time I turn on my xbox. I don't recall that ever happening. The geo-filter would never be active unless I opened a game and entered the multiplayer menu.

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That makes sense, but why am I connecting to that server bank before I even load a game? Its always the same one, every time I turn on my xbox. I don't recall that ever happening. The geo-filter would never be active unless I opened a game and entered the multiplayer menu.

It will be an Xbox live server, sometimes you see them appear on the geofilter now and again. I think those servers are used for things like the adverts you see on the dashboard.

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That makes sense, but why am I connecting to that server bank before I even load a game? Its always the same one, every time I turn on my xbox. I don't recall that ever happening. The geo-filter would never be active unless I opened a game and entered the multiplayer menu.

 

CoD also pings the available servers when you first boot up. If your Geo-Filter settings allow it, then those servers will be pingable and therefore the game will allow you to connect to them. Set your Geo-Filter up how you want it - with strict on before you boot up the game.

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It will be an Xbox live server, sometimes you see them appear on the geofilter now and again. I think those servers are used for things like the adverts you see on the dashboard.

 

 

CoD also pings the available servers when you first boot up. If your Geo-Filter settings allow it, then those servers will be pingable and therefore the game will allow you to connect to them. Set your Geo-Filter up how you want it - with strict on before you boot up the game.

 

Hi guys,

 

I did some testing with IW and the geo-filter does seem to be working, but something seems a little off.

 

Like I was saying before, Im still not really sure about the server that appears when I first boot up my xbox. It could be an xbox live server or a cod server and when I enter the multiplayer menu and search for a game that server remains.

 

First, here are my settings

 

https://imgur.com/a/sD2ZG

 

Enter the multiplayer menu with show dormant hosts ticked

 

https://imgur.com/a/qX3K3

 

What I found kind of odd was when I untick show dormant hosts, the Washington and CA servers disappear and the server that appears when I boot up my xbox remains. From my settings I have strict mode ticked and ping assist set to 25ms, but ended up being put into a game that appears to be hosted on the WA server. The temp ban icon is shown, so is that a dedicated cod server?

 

https://imgur.com/a/a9c1v

 

and with a 41ms ping

 

https://imgur.com/a/Qel45

 

After another search I was put on what looks like the CA server

 

https://imgur.com/a/442Hz

 

With a 20ms ping and temp ban icon shown

 

https://imgur.com/a/JO7ao

 

And here is another game I was put into with a player outside the geo-filter range

 

https://imgur.com/a/dpgnl

 

I played a few games on what appeared to be the CA server and they did run pretty smooth, which was nice. Why are the WA and CA servers shown as dormant, but when I search for a game its seems like I was put on them. How can I be put into a game with a ping greater than what my ping assist is set to and with strict mode enabled? And does the geo-filter sometimes not show all of the players in the lobby? They were full when I joined.

 

Also thank you for taking the time to answer my previous questions. I really do appreciate it.

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Thanks for this comprehensive post! Interesting stuff.

 

It's worth saying that I don't personally play WWII much, but there's a couple of things to note here. First of all, with Ping Assist on, you will either connect to games within your radius or you will connect to games outside the radius but with a value lower than your Ping Assist value. Since you connected to a server within your radius, your ping was higher than your Ping Assist value. If you want to purely rely on Ping Assist then try setting your home in the ocean with a tiny radius with Strict Mode off. With Ping Assist at 25ms you'd then connect to any game in the world with a ping of less than 25ms.

 

The Geo-Filter doesn't show players sometimes when you connect to a dedicated server - simply because it's difficult for routers to detect them. It's similar to having a second router connected to the Netduma with other devices connected to that router - Device Prioritisation won't be able to detect those other devices, all it will see is the other router.

 

I honestly am not sure why those particular servers show up as dormant hosts, though it looks like you can connect to them okay. Is it causing you any problems?

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Thanks for this comprehensive post! Interesting stuff.

 

It's worth saying that I don't personally play WWII much, but there's a couple of things to note here. First of all, with Ping Assist on, you will either connect to games within your radius or you will connect to games outside the radius but with a value lower than your Ping Assist value. Since you connected to a server within your radius, your ping was higher than your Ping Assist value. If you want to purely rely on Ping Assist then try setting your home in the ocean with a tiny radius with Strict Mode off. With Ping Assist at 25ms you'd then connect to any game in the world with a ping of less than 25ms.

 

The Geo-Filter doesn't show players sometimes when you connect to a dedicated server - simply because it's difficult for routers to detect them. It's similar to having a second router connected to the Netduma with other devices connected to that router - Device Prioritisation won't be able to detect those other devices, all it will see is the other router.

 

I honestly am not sure why those particular servers show up as dormant hosts, though it looks like you can connect to them okay. Is it causing you any problems?

 

Did you mean you don't play IW much? Thats what I was testing on. I would like to try WWII, but I hear so many complaints about it and I don't want to buy it and not be happy lol. Thank you for the tip and clarifications though! I will definitely try putting my home in the ocean, but for my radius should it be so small that it doesn't touch land or is around 1000km ok?

 

Something like this?

https://imgur.com/a/BT8yr

 

Same. I am a little confused whey they appear dormant and Im connecting to them. But other than that, they did not cause any problems. I played 2 or 3 games and everything seemed fine. In fact when I searched for games on and off just to see who I would be playing with, there were quite a lot of players near my location.

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Did you mean you don't play IW much? Thats what I was testing on. I would like to try WWII, but I hear so many complaints about it and I don't want to buy it and not be happy lol. Thank you for the tip and clarifications though! I will definitely try putting my home in the ocean, but for my radius should it be so small that it doesn't touch land or is around 1000km ok?

 

Something like this?

https://imgur.com/a/BT8yr

 

Same. I am a little confused whey they appear dormant and Im connecting to them. But other than that, they did not cause any problems. I played 2 or 3 games and everything seemed fine. In fact when I searched for games on and off just to see who I would be playing with, there were quite a lot of players near my location.

 

I'm glad it isn't causing you any gameplay / search time issues - sorry for mistaking the game you're playing! Your Geo setup looks fine on that screenshot - I'd recommend putting it right in the middle of the sea just in case. If you need a reference you could enable the CoD Ultimate profile which runs on the same system. Please let us know if you like that setup! :)

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Not my intention to interfere in this discussion but what is the COD ultimate profile. Using the R1 presently.

 

That's okay - the CoD Ultimate profile is a setup that relies purely on Ping Assist. The radius means nothing when using it - it doesn't filter games by distance, instead filtering purely by ping.

 

The settings for it are Ping Assist at 60ms, the radius as small as possible and your home location in the middle of the ocean (or anywhere else where there's no servers / players). Strict Mode can be ticked or unticked (though we recommend unticked since you might struggle to find a game otherwise).

 

Feel free to give it a go, you'll understand more if you try it out :D Let us know how you find it!

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Well this setup does little for my gaming in that it hardly finds a server and when it does its the one from hell that haunts me. Will stick with geofilter / ping. Thanks anyway.

 

Make a post in the 1 on 1 section with dates/times you'll be available next week and I can take a look.

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Thanks for this comprehensive post! Interesting stuff.

 

It's worth saying that I don't personally play WWII much, but there's a couple of things to note here. First of all, with Ping Assist on, you will either connect to games within your radius or you will connect to games outside the radius but with a value lower than your Ping Assist value. Since you connected to a server within your radius, your ping was higher than your Ping Assist value. If you want to purely rely on Ping Assist then try setting your home in the ocean with a tiny radius with Strict Mode off. With Ping Assist at 25ms you'd then connect to any game in the world with a ping of less than 25ms.

 

The Geo-Filter doesn't show players sometimes when you connect to a dedicated server - simply because it's difficult for routers to detect them. It's similar to having a second router connected to the Netduma with other devices connected to that router - Device Prioritisation won't be able to detect those other devices, all it will see is the other router.

 

I honestly am not sure why those particular servers show up as dormant hosts, though it looks like you can connect to them okay. Is it causing you any problems?

 

Hi Jack,

 

I was recently able to try what you suggested by putting my home location in the ocean and at 25ms, but I am unable to find a game. I tried multiple ping assists and finally found a game at 50ms after waiting about one minute. This was with strict mode off. 

 

https://imgur.com/a/Ej07z

 

Next I set the geo-filter how I normally do with strict mode on and ping assist at 25ms.

 

https://imgur.com/a/lHn9b

 

I was able to find a game relatively quickly and with a 15ms ping. It also appeared to be a dedicated server. 

 

https://imgur.com/a/uJph1

 

I didn't play any games I connected to with my home location in the ocean as I was only able to connect to one (at 50ms), but decided not to try it. The games I did play were with my normal geo-filter settings and 4 out of 5 ran pretty smooth. Should I keep ping assist at 60ms when my home is set in the ocean? I noticed you mentioned its in the settings for the cod ultimate profile.

 

Thanks

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