Od1n Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 as of today its illegal in europe to stream copyrighted content, the EU court has made it pretty clear in the case of the dutch "Filmspeler" before, in most countries this was still legal as the RAM of your PC didnt count towards an actual piracy copy anyway, more than ever it now makes sense to look into VPNs my question now is how do i set it up for the R1 so all my devices are secure as long as they are connected to the R1? from my understanding it requires an Open VPN Config, the VPN im looking for "NordVPN" does offer that so it should work with the Netduma right? see here: https://nordvpn.com/ovpn/ also incase you are also on the fence of switching, here is a 70% off voucher for NordVPN "HOTNORD" any1 mind helping me on setting it up? ColonicBoom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG__DOG Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 as of today its illegal in europe to stream copyrighted content, the EU court has made it pretty clear in the case of the dutch "Filmspeler" before, in most countries this was still legal as the RAM of your PC didnt count towards an actual piracy copy anyway, more than ever it now makes sense to look into VPNs my question now is how do i set it up for the R1 so all my devices are secure as long as they are connected to the R1? from my understanding it requires an Open VPN Config, the VPN im looking for "NordVPN" does offer that also incase you are also on the fence of switching, here is a 70% off voucher for NordVPN "HOTNORD" any1 mind helping me on setting it up? are you saying that nord does not provide an open config file? pffft. i wont be using them then Od1n 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG__DOG Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 oh, and yes they do provide a config file, try looking at their help section! It supports netduma!!!!! https://support.nordvpn.com/hc/en-us/articles/115002402269-Netduma-router-guide open config files are here: https://nordvpn.com/ovpn/ Od1n 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Od1n Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 are you saying that nord does not provide an open config file? pffft. i wont be using them then yes they do, sorry i will edit my opening post and make it more clear edit: Thanks a lot Big Dog i didnt realize you posted the guide for it, much appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Od1n Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 just an understanding question: when i download eg the Open VPN "de121.nordvpn.com.tcp443.ovpn" im surfing with the german server 121 right? (DE stands for Germany) or likewise with "ca19.nordvpn.com.tcp443.ovpn" for the canadian 19 server is there anything to look out for when choosing a server? otherwise i would just pick one that is within my country to keep the ping reasonable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG__DOG Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 no probs and hope you get sorted. Remember to click the devices you want protecting in vpn and when ready connect to vpn. Netduma will only protect those that are ticked. Also note that running through a vpn will dramatically reduce your speeds due to the extra encryption and multiple routing vpn uses. Od1n 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Od1n Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 thanks a lot for the quick responses Big Dog, id give you a +5 rep but only can give you one per post haha BIG__DOG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG__DOG Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 just choose a server you want to use. The config file if it is the same as mine is identicle for all servers and all you should need to do is change the server address in that file. make a list of all the server address you wish to use and just manually change them when using a different server.....word of advice do not game with a vpn as you will get a lot of lag due to the vpn routing. Od1n 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG__DOG Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 have you managed to sort it buddy? Od1n 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Od1n Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 i will set it up in half an hour, got to dig through some paperwork from earlier the day first haha ill post here as soon as ive tried it BIG__DOG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Od1n Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 yes it works, thanks for your tutorial there are two questions left that i have 1) what are the Netduma exceptions for? theres - source engine games - Streaming (rtmp) - Google Services/Youtube 2) is an Open VPN Config slower than using the VPN provider software? with Netduma Open VPN: 50% downloadspeed 90% upload speed +11ms more ping with VPN provider software: 95% downloadspeed 95% uploadspeed +11ms more ping also NordVPN offers a free trial with no payment at all for 3 days incase someone wants to check it out in the tests it has the fastest network https://support.nordvpn.com/hc/en-us/articles/208084455-Do-you-offer-a-free-trial/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG__DOG Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 1. i think it is for bypassing the vpn (but that is only my guess as I use pia's software on my pc if i need a vpn). 2. It is not a question of which is faster or slower. It is because the data you are sending through a vpn has to be encrypted which slows things down and is detrimental to gaming as that causes delay and therefor lag. so using the software or direct connection via openvpn config has the same outcome. Od1n 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmMoDBoX Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 It is not a question of which is faster or slower. It is because the data you are sending through a vpn has to be encrypted which slows things down and is detrimental to gaming as that causes delay and therefor lag. so using the software or direct connection via openvpn config has the same outcome. Not true... running the software on your device will be faster and more than likely give you 100% speeds. The CPU on the router isn't fast enough for more than about 11Mbps. also NordVPN offers a free trial with no payment at all for 3 days incase someone wants to check it out in the tests it has the fastest network https://support.nordvpn.com/hc/en-us/articles/208084455-Do-you-offer-a-free-trial/ First, thanks for that... I'm on PIA which I have no issues with but I'd be open to trying nord since they have good reviews too. Second, if you're running through the Netduma make sure you change your DNS servers on the router to VPN provided one or use a 3rd party like google or PIA's DNS because the Netduma does not give your VPN'd devices a DNS and your ISP can see that.. Check that you're not leaking anything by going to https://ipleak.net/ Od1n 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Od1n Posted April 27, 2017 Author Share Posted April 27, 2017 Not true... running the software on your device will be faster and more than likely give you 100% speeds. The CPU on the router isn't fast enough for more than about 11Mbps. yes thats what i thought too and this seems to be the case NordVPN uses a very heavy encryption, from what ive researched its higher than on other services my download with the Netduma CPU is only 50% while with my PC VPN software i pretty much reach 100% i doubt the new DumaOS can fix that, but for most devices half the speed is actually fine and those that need more are covered by all the NordVPN app solutions that you can install on them Second, if you're running through the Netduma make sure you change your DNS servers on the router to VPN provided one or use a 3rd party like google or PIA's DNS because the Netduma does not give your VPN'd devices a DNS and your ISP can see that.. Check that you're not leaking anything by going to https://ipleak.net/ thanks didnt know that just tested it and yes theres a DNS leak when using the Netduma Open VPN, with googles DNS im save though will research the NordVPN DNS numbers tomorrow then as for the NordVPN software itself theres no leak, they have their own DNS servers that the software will use tested it with your site and no DNS leak also here is the link to the trial if you want to test it https://support.nordvpn.com/hc/en-us/articles/208084455-Do-you-offer-a-free-trial/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmMoDBoX Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 with googles DNS im save though Yeah don't trust google lol I use PIA's you can use them too 209.222.18.222 209.222.18.218 Od1n 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Od1n Posted April 27, 2017 Author Share Posted April 27, 2017 haha no way id ever trust google in terms of secure data useage i just used their dns to test for the leak (the only dns i know without having to research one) tomorrow ill look for the VPN provider DNS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Od1n Posted April 27, 2017 Author Share Posted April 27, 2017 one last thing, if i try the PIA DNS the ipleak.net site shows two IPs in the "Your IP adresses - WebRTC detection" with one of them being my Netduma local IP (eg 192.168.88.50) is that considered to be bad? with the NordVPN software on my PC that isnt the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG__DOG Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 1. i think it is for bypassing the vpn (but that is only my guess as I use pia's software on my pc if i need a vpn). 2. It is not a question of which is faster or slower. It is because the data you are sending through a vpn has to be encrypted which slows things down and is detrimental to gaming as that causes delay and therefor lag. so using the software or direct connection via openvpn config has the same outcome. I stand corrected! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmMoDBoX Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 one last thing, if i try the PIA DNS the ipleak.net site shows two IPs in the "Your IP adresses - WebRTC detection" with one of them being my Netduma local IP (eg 192.168.88.50) is that considered to be bad? with the NordVPN software on my PC that isnt the case That's your browser leaking that. You can disable webrtc without any side effects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted April 27, 2017 Administrators Share Posted April 27, 2017 yes it works, thanks for your tutorial there are two questions left that i have 1) what are the Netduma exceptions for? theres - source engine games - Streaming (rtmp) - Google Services/Youtube 2) is an Open VPN Config slower than using the VPN provider software? with Netduma Open VPN: 50% downloadspeed 90% upload speed +11ms more ping with VPN provider software: 95% downloadspeed 95% uploadspeed +11ms more ping Great to hear you have the VPN working. Exceptions are so you can protect your PC but for applications where you need full speed you can put them through as an exception. E.g. PC VPN protected but your Twitch stream doesn't go through the VPN. That way it's not subject to any additional latency & if someone attempts to get your IP from Skype for example and hit you off they'll hit off the VPN and your stream will stay online. Yes it would be, due to hardware limitation I believe it's limited to around 10mbps. You'll always have additional ping when using a VPN, the only way around that is to choose the closest possible server to your location Od1n 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Od1n Posted April 28, 2017 Author Share Posted April 28, 2017 Yes it would be, due to hardware limitation I believe it's limited to around 10mbps. You'll always have additional ping when using a VPN, the only way around that is to choose the closest possible server to your location any special settings in the R1 to achieve that such as boost mode? right now i can only get around 5mbits with the VPN but i do not use any of the boost modes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted April 28, 2017 Administrators Share Posted April 28, 2017 any special settings in the R1 to achieve that such as boost mode? right now i can only get around 5mbits with the VPN but i do not use any of the boost modes If you're setup for 100% speeds then theres nothing else you're able to do as it's a hardware limitation. You should have enough bandwidth to stream though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Od1n Posted April 28, 2017 Author Share Posted April 28, 2017 all right not an issue, the devices that require hithger speeds are covered by VPN apps you can install on them just thought i might have not properly setup the R1 as the max i achive with Open VPN is 5mbits instead of 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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