Zennon Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Absolutely, but it'd be nice to not constantly have to keep resetting all my devices after the modem packs in. For weeks now it's been dropping out and needing me to reset it so I was glad that he saw something wrong on his end. I want to get an idea of what level of performance I get when all of my own devices are working - that should then help me to understand whether their network is poo or not. Yeah that would be much better, I was just pointing it out encase they had blindsided you with the router being the issue TurboBaron and ColonicBoom 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboBaron Posted January 27, 2017 Author Share Posted January 27, 2017 Yeah that would be much better, I was just pointing it out encase they had blindsided you with the router being the issue Ha ha of course, yeah I'm no network engineer but I know the kit itself won't make much difference if there are issues with VM's network itself My plan is to get this stage out of the way and see what my results are like, and if they're still rubbish then I'll be doing some complaining and getting some money off. I'm buggered if I'm paying a premium for crap quality. Beyond that if things are really naff then I might investigate swapping over to BT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonicBoom Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Cool, glad they've owned up to a specific problem. Hopefully this will resolve some (if not all) of your probs. Just wanted to comment on this, so I'm tacking it on here... Open a youtube video and play it then post results, this will put your network under stress. When testing the line itself, for 'ISP problems', you don't really want to be running anything else at all on your network. You would be better to test while your home network is super-quiet - so nothing skews your results at all. TurboBaron and Macca65 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboBaron Posted February 2, 2017 Author Share Posted February 2, 2017 Well guys, I swapped my superhub for a new one on Saturday just gone and since then I haven't had any issues with my network doing down (he said, tapping the side of his wooden chair). I've just set ping plotter off on another monitoring session looking at twitter.com. My network won't be totally quiet as I'm at home and using my connection to browse the web, send and receive emails and watch YouTube. But I'm guessing the monitoring should still be useful in that if there's anything really drastic going on it should show itself up. I've set the graph to a six hour period and will upload some photos for y'all later today. Netduma Fraser 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted February 2, 2017 Administrators Share Posted February 2, 2017 Great to hear that! Keep us updated BaloMatias 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonicBoom Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Well guys, I swapped my superhub for a new one on Saturday just gone and since then I haven't had any issues with my network doing down (he said, tapping the side of his wooden chair). I've just set ping plotter off on another monitoring session looking at twitter.com. My network won't be totally quiet as I'm at home and using my connection to browse the web, send and receive emails and watch YouTube. But I'm guessing the monitoring should still be useful in that if there's anything really drastic going on it should show itself up. I've set the graph to a six hour period and will upload some photos for y'all later today. Cool, glad it's behaving better now. If you're using your network whilst you monitor it, when you/we look at the graph you/we won't be able to tell what is caused by your traffic vs 'noise' on the line. Like you said, drastic problems will obviously show up on the graph but if they're that bad you'll know without the graph anyway. TurboBaron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zennon Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Yes a 10 minute test not using it is better than an 6h test while using it for sure. ColonicBoom and TurboBaron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboBaron Posted February 2, 2017 Author Share Posted February 2, 2017 No worries. I'll impose a half hour no use zone come 8 pm tonight ! ColonicBoom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboBaron Posted February 2, 2017 Author Share Posted February 2, 2017 http://imgur.com/Y34dHBI Right then dudes. I left my internet connection completely unused between 7:41 pm and 08:10 pm. Based on that does anyone have any observations ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zennon Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Owch that aint great, I would say its the docsis 3 puma CPU issue in your modem creating that jitter. http://forum.netduma.com/topic/19334-intels-puma-6-chipset-suffers-from-latency-jitter-fix-soon/?hl=docsis&do=findComment&comment=132386 TurboBaron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboBaron Posted February 2, 2017 Author Share Posted February 2, 2017 Owch that aint great, I would say its the docsis 3 puma CPU issue in your modem creating that jitter. http://forum.netduma.com/topic/19334-intels-puma-6-chipset-suffers-from-latency-jitter-fix-soon/?hl=docsis&do=findComment&comment=132386 Thanks for the link, I'm not sure if that applies to me though because I have a Superhub 2 AC not a Superhub 3. For my learning, what am I looking at on the graph that shows the connection isn't great ? Is it the "spikyness" of the graph at the bottom ? Is the goal for that to ideally be a flat line ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zennon Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 This is mine on a good day last year with no one using the net, when users are online the congestion control usual keeps the jitter to around 2ms up and down from this flat line 16ms TurboBaron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboBaron Posted February 2, 2017 Author Share Posted February 2, 2017 Ah ok now I can see the difference - mine's proper crap ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zennon Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Do you have the option of fibre in your area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonicBoom Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Ah ok now I can see the difference - mine's proper crap ! While yours doesn't look great, don't be too dishearted that it doesn't look like Zen's graph. His is not the norm (not in my experience anyway). It's so flat that you can't even see the line ffs! Lucky ******* *******. Out of interest... Did you have congestion control at 100/100 for this whole graph or 70/70 (or some other numbers), or did you change it at some point during the day? It looks more stable around 3pm - 3.30pm compared to the evening. What's up with that Zen? Would that be ISP congestion (or lack of) before everyone in the neighbourhood gets home after school/work? TurboBaron, can you take a graph showing just 15-30mins or so please, just because it's easier to look at than a long timeframe graph (if you right-click the graph down the bottom, you can set it to show 30mins I think). Any time of day you want really, make sure nobody is using the internet at the house and test over ethernet from your laptop again. I'll plot a graph for you too, you'll be able to see the line on mine unlike on Zen's TurboBaron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboBaron Posted February 3, 2017 Author Share Posted February 3, 2017 Do you have the option of fibre in your area? OK here's the worrying bit - that IS fibre ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboBaron Posted February 3, 2017 Author Share Posted February 3, 2017 Sure here you go, I took this just now (I got up about 5 mins ago) so this would have been with no-one using the connection. http://imgur.com/ayyIGJS To answer your question I had congestion control set at 70/70 all yesterday, I didn't make any changes. Also just to confirm I am testing over ethernet cable to the R1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zennon Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 OK here's the worrying bit - that IS fibre ! No you are on cable with Virgin. To get a flat line boom the IP you are pinging has to be responding well (not under stress its self) I can get a flat line early in the morning when twitter is not being battered and of course my ISP is less utilized. ColonicBoom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboBaron Posted February 3, 2017 Author Share Posted February 3, 2017 No you are on cable with Virgin. To get a flat line boom the IP you are pinging has to be responding well (not under stress its self) I can get a flat line early in the morning when twitter is not being battered and of course my ISP is less utilized. Sorry it might be me being dumb but I thought Virgin cable was fibre, have I got it wrong ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zennon Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Sorry it might be me being dumb but I thought Virgin cable was fibre, have I got it wrong ? Clue is in the word cable Couldn't resist sorry, Virgin users tend to see jitter like yours. TurboBaron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboBaron Posted February 3, 2017 Author Share Posted February 3, 2017 Clue is in the word cable Couldn't resist sorry, Virgin users tend to see jitter like yours. But they advertise it as fibre optic cable ? I'm so confused. I think I need to give all this up and do something less complicated like watch Inception in French So to cut a long story short we think that I'm stuck with the network jitter unless I switch providers ? Might be time to consider a switch to BT then I guess based on some of the comments on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zennon Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 I will let others say what you should do, but I would not even consider Virgin as a gamer but that's just me. TurboBaron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboBaron Posted February 4, 2017 Author Share Posted February 4, 2017 Thanks for all the help to date guys. I'm going to have a chat with Virgin to see if there's anything they can do to improve the quality of my connection but if they aren't able to do something for me then it may be time for a change. I've been having a look at these guys, has anyone had any experience with them ? http://gaming.idnet.uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zennon Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 I have used IDNet for standard ADSL years ago and they were a good ISP. Big_Dog a member here is using them at the moment, PM him he's is a good lad and will help you out. ColonicBoom and TurboBaron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 ordered gaming isp yesterday be activated on 15/02 thats idnet with prioritized gaming traffic cant wait.! TurboBaron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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